1 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:43,439 you 2 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:51,930 kids yeah Monday 3 00:00:57,329 --> 00:00:54,240 unbelievable weekend hope you had a 4 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:57,339 great one it's Memorial Day so I'm 5 00:01:01,529 --> 00:00:59,170 assuming everybody's got the day off 6 00:01:04,770 --> 00:01:01,539 pretty close you know barbecuing hanging 7 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:04,780 out with us here and you know it's a 8 00:01:11,550 --> 00:01:06,820 great day to have Steve Marilla Wong 9 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:11,560 with US Naval Academy graduate Marine 10 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:14,890 Corps fighter pilot and all that stuff 11 00:01:20,790 --> 00:01:15,970 so we're gonna have a great conversation 12 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:20,800 tonight getting ready here uh-oh I 13 00:01:27,419 --> 00:01:23,140 wanted to say that I went through the 14 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:27,429 studio today and replaced all of the 15 00:01:33,779 --> 00:01:31,450 cat5 cables with cat6a and they were 16 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:33,789 just failing and it turned out that was 17 00:01:39,090 --> 00:01:36,850 the issue and it was it was just weird 18 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:39,100 one went down another one went down and 19 00:01:44,669 --> 00:01:41,170 and I was replacing him 20 00:01:49,289 --> 00:01:44,679 but anyway blazing-fast what a 21 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:49,299 difference cables make right so the 22 00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:52,450 studios all sussed out turned out that 23 00:01:59,099 --> 00:01:54,729 was the video problem last week that was 24 00:02:00,929 --> 00:01:59,109 one cable a couple of weeks ago um 25 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:00,939 another one went down when I lost the 26 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:02,560 internet on another computer and I 27 00:02:06,450 --> 00:02:04,990 thought it was the Internet card and I 28 00:02:08,609 --> 00:02:06,460 thought it was all this weird stuff and 29 00:02:10,169 --> 00:02:08,619 just turned out to be cables and they 30 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:10,179 all went you know they were just failing 31 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:13,450 all together so nonetheless everything 32 00:02:17,460 --> 00:02:16,959 is ripping fast cool clean and there you 33 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:17,470 go 34 00:02:26,699 --> 00:02:24,640 so that was my day today and now busy 35 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:26,709 weekend was over at coast to coast 36 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:28,540 Friday and Saturday of course fade to 37 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:33,340 black all last week we got ready for CIT 38 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:36,609 D yesterday that was our only you know a 39 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:39,340 few hours to work on that and then we've 40 00:02:43,289 --> 00:02:41,380 got fade to black and then BOOM we head 41 00:02:44,729 --> 00:02:43,299 out to contact in the desert so we're 42 00:02:46,379 --> 00:02:44,739 not gonna broadcast Thursday we're 43 00:02:49,140 --> 00:02:46,389 taking Thursday off we'll be on the road 44 00:02:50,610 --> 00:02:49,150 and and then we're getting ready for the 45 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:50,620 big Friday night broadcast out of the 46 00:03:11,670 --> 00:02:52,480 contact in the desert I go live in four 47 00:03:27,569 --> 00:03:20,950 [Music] 48 00:03:31,349 --> 00:03:27,579 this hope radio for the masses headliner 49 00:03:33,569 --> 00:03:31,359 between July 8 1947 the on the airport 50 00:03:35,429 --> 00:03:33,579 who has an option applying her has been 51 00:03:38,369 --> 00:03:35,439 found and is now in the possession of 52 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:38,379 the RA the game is rigged changed the 53 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:42,430 game changer I occasionally think how 54 00:03:49,409 --> 00:03:45,670 quickly our differences worldwide would 55 00:03:51,790 --> 00:03:49,419 vanish if we were facing an alien threat 56 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:51,800 from outside this way 57 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:56,280 [Music] 58 00:04:01,970 --> 00:03:59,040 this is fade to black with your host 59 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:01,980 Jimmy Church on the game changer radio 60 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:05,190 network and K GRA the global radio 61 00:04:14,180 --> 00:04:10,680 I need your help to get to the year 62 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:18,680 [Music] 63 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:21,300 like with Jimmy judge on the 64 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:23,090 game-changing network 65 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:29,110 [Music] 66 00:04:44,170 --> 00:04:32,480 good evening fade to black 67 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:44,180 the spoke radio for some masses it's 68 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:48,320 another Monday happy Monday to you May 69 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:52,250 28 2008 een 147 days into the new year 70 00:05:01,450 --> 00:04:57,110 just 218 days left we are live from a 71 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:01,460 bunker somewhere in beautiful downtown 72 00:05:05,050 --> 00:05:03,470 Burbank California and I would like to 73 00:05:08,820 --> 00:05:05,060 welcome everybody listening all around 74 00:05:11,770 --> 00:05:08,830 the world all across the United States 75 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:11,780 hither and thither to and fro back and 76 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:13,610 forth up and down east and west north 77 00:05:20,330 --> 00:05:17,370 and south far and near 78 00:05:22,580 --> 00:05:20,340 this is fade to black for kjc are the 79 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:22,590 game changer Network and K GRA the 80 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:23,190 planet 81 00:05:28,940 --> 00:05:25,560 I'm heroes Jimmy Church what is cracking 82 00:05:33,910 --> 00:05:32,010 how you doing 83 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:33,920 are you doing 84 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:38,410 how you do it man I love Mondays 85 00:05:45,370 --> 00:05:39,490 [Applause] 86 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:45,380 tonight's on this Memorial Day we have 87 00:05:51,850 --> 00:05:48,530 very special guest Steve Murillo is here 88 00:05:58,270 --> 00:05:51,860 now we're gonna talk to you opposed all 89 00:06:00,310 --> 00:05:58,280 night long every single side of it from 90 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:00,320 somebody that graduated from the United 91 00:06:05,530 --> 00:06:02,510 States Naval Academy Marine Corps 92 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:05,540 fighter pilot director of MUFON Los 93 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:09,530 Angeles for 13 years now he runs you 94 00:06:13,150 --> 00:06:11,330 pars right here in Studio City 95 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:13,160 California they get together every 96 00:06:23,230 --> 00:06:20,480 single month and you pars the I'm gonna 97 00:06:26,380 --> 00:06:23,240 guess and say it's a hundred hundred and 98 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:26,390 fifty every single month you know and 99 00:06:32,140 --> 00:06:29,090 depending or the subject is and and it 100 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:32,150 cranks up to about 200 every single 101 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:34,910 month year after year after year Steve 102 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:36,410 Murillo has been getting it done right 103 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:39,110 here in Los Angeles California so hang 104 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:44,260 out for that he goes back all the way to 105 00:06:49,420 --> 00:06:46,520 and I say this every time he's on the 106 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:49,430 show and and we joke and kid about a bit 107 00:06:59,020 --> 00:06:53,690 he was our first guest on fade to black 108 00:07:02,400 --> 00:06:59,030 and what he means to the UFO community 109 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:02,410 and how long he has been getting it done 110 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:05,810 it just cannot be measured and he is a 111 00:07:12,940 --> 00:07:08,690 very very close friend of myself and 112 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:12,950 Rita of course his wife Pat and and 113 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:16,300 Steve and the four of us we go out often 114 00:07:22,930 --> 00:07:19,610 there over at our house for dinner as 115 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:22,940 often as we can get that done because I 116 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:25,910 appreciate not only their friendship but 117 00:07:31,030 --> 00:07:28,190 his his intelligence and his take on 118 00:07:33,910 --> 00:07:31,040 things it's it's really funny I talk a 119 00:07:35,770 --> 00:07:33,920 lot and I don't talk that much when 120 00:07:39,220 --> 00:07:35,780 Steve's around I shut up he starts 121 00:07:41,050 --> 00:07:39,230 talking then and it's that respect so 122 00:07:42,430 --> 00:07:41,060 tonight he is here really looking 123 00:07:45,250 --> 00:07:42,440 forward to another great conversation 124 00:07:46,530 --> 00:07:45,260 with Steve tomorrow night Daryl Sims is 125 00:07:48,630 --> 00:07:46,540 back 126 00:07:53,820 --> 00:07:48,640 tomorrow night Darryl sims will be 127 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:53,830 joining us and Wednesday is a special 128 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:55,810 Fator night with open lines all night 129 00:08:00,060 --> 00:07:56,800 long 130 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:00,070 Jon Rappoport is on the road he's doing 131 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:02,770 the road trip and will be doing the same 132 00:08:08,580 --> 00:08:06,370 on Thursday so we are moving fader night 133 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:08,590 to Wednesday night so get ready for that 134 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:10,120 o be open lines all night long 135 00:08:15,570 --> 00:08:13,330 Thursday we are on the road we're 136 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:15,580 heading out to Palm Springs California 137 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:20,110 for contact in the desert and as soon as 138 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:21,970 we get there and I'm sure that a bunch 139 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:25,330 of you will already be there we've got 140 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:26,950 to set up the booth and get ready and 141 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:29,560 there's a couple of parties that were 142 00:08:35,490 --> 00:08:32,410 we've got to attend Thursday night and 143 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:35,500 then get ready for the action that will 144 00:08:40,740 --> 00:08:39,130 kick off Friday June 1st and that's it 145 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:40,750 this is contacting the desert week 146 00:08:46,260 --> 00:08:42,910 really looking forward to hanging out 147 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:46,270 with all of you yes I get your email and 148 00:08:51,570 --> 00:08:48,820 I get your tax in their tweets and in 149 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:51,580 your post and everything saying I can't 150 00:08:57,020 --> 00:08:53,260 wait for contact in the desert and 151 00:09:01,710 --> 00:08:57,030 that's it it is now officially here 152 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:01,720 whining it down Friday night we'll be 153 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:04,450 broadcasting live from contact in the 154 00:09:12,090 --> 00:09:06,900 desert we do that every single year and 155 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:12,100 the first year that we did it we came up 156 00:09:17,790 --> 00:09:15,130 with this crazy idea all right we've got 157 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:17,800 all these speakers here we've got you 158 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:21,370 know this on let's just bring out as 159 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:24,970 many guests as we can and so every 15 160 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:28,480 minutes we bring in two more guests and 161 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:31,060 we do that for three hours and we 162 00:09:35,670 --> 00:09:33,550 thought it was you know all fun and now 163 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:35,680 it's now it's a tradition it's what we 164 00:09:40,410 --> 00:09:38,170 do but you're gonna want to if you've 165 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:40,420 never listened to a contact in the 166 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:43,210 desert special before check it out on 167 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:45,730 Friday night and you'll see the madness 168 00:09:51,930 --> 00:09:48,850 go down it's crazy it's crazy it's such 169 00:09:55,290 --> 00:09:51,940 a good time so that'll be happening this 170 00:09:59,790 --> 00:09:55,300 Friday night okay so let's get this show 171 00:10:00,810 --> 00:09:59,800 cracking I'm ready it's Monday and thank 172 00:10:04,199 --> 00:10:00,820 you for spending 173 00:10:06,030 --> 00:10:04,209 your Memorial Day with this today I hope 174 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:06,040 that you're enjoying your time off if 175 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,430 you if you do work if you're retired 176 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:11,680 maybe you don't have a job yet in here 177 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:14,110 you're still in school whatever it is 178 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:16,480 but it's still Memorial Day and I hope 179 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:18,540 you spend it with friends and family and 180 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:22,170 and took advantage of what this day is 181 00:10:31,460 --> 00:10:26,680 here for which is you know for everybody 182 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:31,470 that has served in the military and and 183 00:10:37,949 --> 00:10:35,529 gave the ultimate sacrifice and I used 184 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:37,959 to I used to talk about this a lot but 185 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:40,990 when we no matter what your position is 186 00:10:45,870 --> 00:10:43,810 on the United States or other state 187 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:45,880 actors around the world or military or 188 00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:49,690 war or whatever none of that is good but 189 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:52,630 one thing is for sure the freedoms that 190 00:10:59,970 --> 00:10:56,560 we have in this country are protected 191 00:11:01,800 --> 00:10:59,980 and the ability for me to speak on this 192 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:01,810 microphone every single night for you to 193 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:04,770 listen to me and those freedoms of that 194 00:11:12,540 --> 00:11:09,430 are are here and we we just can't we 195 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:12,550 can't ever really lose sight of that you 196 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:16,000 know and and I get before I move on I 197 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:17,620 just want to say this on this Memorial 198 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:22,410 Day you know I'm a I'm an army brat and 199 00:11:28,710 --> 00:11:25,839 you know and when you live on military 200 00:11:31,079 --> 00:11:28,720 bases and you're and you're with the 201 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:31,089 military and you see that all around the 202 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:33,130 world and the military families and you 203 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:34,959 go to school with the kids and and 204 00:11:41,690 --> 00:11:38,230 everything it's it's it's it's a family 205 00:11:45,150 --> 00:11:41,700 that that is out there and you really 206 00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:45,160 you really just it's a tight it's a 207 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:48,430 tight-knit group and so when it comes 208 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:51,040 around to things like this and I say 209 00:11:56,069 --> 00:11:54,310 things about our freedoms here and then 210 00:11:59,699 --> 00:11:56,079 and then I'll get the emails you know 211 00:12:01,560 --> 00:11:59,709 Jimmy man you know I you know the United 212 00:12:03,210 --> 00:12:01,570 States imperialistic got everybody you 213 00:12:06,269 --> 00:12:03,220 know you know how can you how can you 214 00:12:09,090 --> 00:12:06,279 defend and how can you and and I'm my 215 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:09,100 response to that when I get those emails 216 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:11,910 is dude or 217 00:12:18,260 --> 00:12:14,610 do that the reason why you can even 218 00:12:20,420 --> 00:12:18,270 write me that email and complain it's 219 00:12:25,330 --> 00:12:20,430 because your freedoms are defended and 220 00:12:28,190 --> 00:12:25,340 protected you don't lose sight of that 221 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:28,200 if the email said Jimmy you know 222 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:30,990 imperialistic does that you know the and 223 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:34,110 Wars and people dying but at least I can 224 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:35,910 type this email and my freedom is 225 00:12:40,940 --> 00:12:37,740 protected but I'm still upset about it 226 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:40,950 that's the correct email but you know so 227 00:12:47,660 --> 00:12:42,480 don't lose sight of that especially on 228 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:47,670 Memorial Day all right now on stellar I 229 00:12:51,830 --> 00:12:49,770 just tweeted out you can follow us over 230 00:12:55,070 --> 00:12:51,840 at arms teller we've got all of our 231 00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:55,080 stuff moved over there you can send me a 232 00:12:59,390 --> 00:12:57,720 friend request on stellar comm if you 233 00:13:02,150 --> 00:12:59,400 haven't registered just go to on stellar 234 00:13:04,430 --> 00:13:02,160 comm use my referral code Jimmy that'll 235 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:04,440 get you in and and get you some bonus 236 00:13:08,060 --> 00:13:06,450 tokens and all of that stuff that's at 237 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:08,070 on stellar calm so send me a friend 238 00:13:14,470 --> 00:13:11,250 request we have fade to black over there 239 00:13:17,290 --> 00:13:14,480 we've got Rita is over there we've got 240 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:17,300 game-changer Network is over there and 241 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:21,240 we're slowly migrating all of our 242 00:13:26,690 --> 00:13:24,360 internet presence and social media over 243 00:13:29,450 --> 00:13:26,700 to on stellar on stellar dot-com 244 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:29,460 get over there get registered and you 245 00:13:34,220 --> 00:13:31,530 will see there's a lot of talk about on 246 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:34,230 stellar and what it is it is the the 247 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:37,170 next great social media platform and 248 00:13:42,140 --> 00:13:39,510 you've just got to go over and check it 249 00:13:44,210 --> 00:13:42,150 out for yourself and and know that 250 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:44,220 there's no data mining there's no 251 00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:46,950 advertising there's no corporate 252 00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:49,950 structure there isn't the man none of 253 00:13:56,390 --> 00:13:53,720 that freedom of speech no censorship an 254 00:13:58,490 --> 00:13:56,400 amazing place to go and hang out it is 255 00:14:01,700 --> 00:13:58,500 the future of social media it is the 256 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:01,710 internet 3.0 it is growing every single 257 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:04,320 day you need to come over and hang out 258 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:07,410 with all of us all right it's great the 259 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:09,810 more people that are there the more that 260 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:12,750 when the blockchain kicks in the more 261 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:16,590 that our little token economy is active 262 00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:19,440 and you need to really absorb that wet 263 00:14:26,170 --> 00:14:23,150 right now we're still in beta test 264 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:26,180 and it is this huge success but it's 265 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:28,370 getting ready to really really kick off 266 00:14:33,730 --> 00:14:30,320 so you just want to go over there get 267 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:33,740 there now and get in early just imagine 268 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:37,360 for a second if you were around for 269 00:14:42,010 --> 00:14:39,890 Facebook when it was in beta test and 270 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:42,020 you were part of it and you would be 271 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:43,820 able to tell hey man I was there well 272 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:45,170 that's what's happening right now with 273 00:14:48,940 --> 00:14:46,670 on stellar you'll be able to tell 274 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:48,950 everybody a couple of years from now I 275 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:51,920 was there man I was listening to fade to 276 00:14:58,660 --> 00:14:55,970 black I got in and I was hanging out I 277 00:14:59,500 --> 00:14:58,670 was there man I saw the changes and I'm 278 00:15:01,630 --> 00:14:59,510 being serious 279 00:15:04,090 --> 00:15:01,640 get over to Islands teller calm you can 280 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:04,100 follow me on Twitter right now at J 281 00:15:12,820 --> 00:15:08,270 Church radio JT radio that's where I 282 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:12,830 hang out during the show and the sandbox 283 00:15:20,530 --> 00:15:15,170 where all the conversations go off in 284 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:20,540 real time is hashtag F to be hashtag F 285 00:15:26,650 --> 00:15:23,990 to be Q is fade to black questions okay 286 00:15:27,970 --> 00:15:26,660 for any comments or anything like that 287 00:15:29,620 --> 00:15:27,980 during the show tonight you can also 288 00:15:31,150 --> 00:15:29,630 email Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com 289 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:31,160 all right 290 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:35,600 and I love my River moon coffee oh yeah 291 00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:38,770 Jeanette Bluth I got to mention this 292 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:42,230 tonight booth when I said we need a name 293 00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:45,850 for the new fade to black 294 00:15:56,050 --> 00:15:50,120 CBD right we mean we need a name for it 295 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:56,060 tonight came up with C be dark C be dark 296 00:16:02,290 --> 00:15:58,010 and that's what we're going with 297 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:02,300 it's called C be dark Tonetta thank you 298 00:16:04,780 --> 00:16:03,470 tonight I hope you're out there 299 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:04,790 listening I haven't seen you post on 300 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:08,170 Twitter but congratulations on that it 301 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:11,450 it was just amazing and I saw when I saw 302 00:16:17,830 --> 00:16:14,660 it she called in on the show right after 303 00:16:19,330 --> 00:16:17,840 that and when I saw it everybody had 304 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:19,340 great suggestions and they're still 305 00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:23,210 coming in by the way but CB dark just 306 00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:27,470 hit it just hit it hit with me I was at 307 00:16:36,350 --> 00:16:31,760 AOL in the beginning I know right so was 308 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:36,360 I so was I remember a AOL 309 00:16:42,699 --> 00:16:39,809 floppy disk yeah remember that before 310 00:16:45,199 --> 00:16:42,709 they got remember this Seeta that those 311 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:45,209 CDs were coming in the mail every single 312 00:16:50,419 --> 00:16:48,689 day I had so many of those CDs but I had 313 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:50,429 a hill well floppies yeah I remember 314 00:16:57,109 --> 00:16:52,079 those days all right 315 00:17:00,049 --> 00:16:57,119 breaking news last week President Trump 316 00:17:04,669 --> 00:17:00,059 canceled the North Korea summit today 317 00:17:06,829 --> 00:17:04,679 it's back on and well sort of I think he 318 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:06,839 forgot that he canceled it it's kind of 319 00:17:14,120 --> 00:17:10,289 weird he's really weird with drive right 320 00:17:17,029 --> 00:17:14,130 now and I want this summit to go down I 321 00:17:18,889 --> 00:17:17,039 want a nuclear-free zone over there I 322 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:18,899 don't want any more threats coming out 323 00:17:26,750 --> 00:17:22,289 of North Korea be really cool for the 324 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:26,760 world for Guam right or South Korea of 325 00:17:36,950 --> 00:17:33,809 course Japan but he canceled it this is 326 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:36,960 like well it's back on so anyway right 327 00:17:42,919 --> 00:17:40,110 now the u.s. is meeting and apparently 328 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,929 they they've wrapped up their meetings 329 00:17:48,110 --> 00:17:45,360 in North Korea maybe they're in a secret 330 00:17:51,129 --> 00:17:48,120 location but now it was suggested today 331 00:17:54,259 --> 00:17:51,139 that they're meeting in Washington I 332 00:17:58,460 --> 00:17:54,269 guess and at a secret location I heard 333 00:18:00,110 --> 00:17:58,470 some stories about that very bizarre but 334 00:18:02,330 --> 00:18:00,120 and this is the other thing that was 335 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:02,340 leaked there they're picking out 336 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:05,130 restaurants yeah they're making dinner 337 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:08,130 plans so you can't have a successful 338 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:12,690 summit right without good appetizers so 339 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:15,210 they are working on that right now y at 340 00:18:18,830 --> 00:18:17,700 Annette tonight you deserve that Thank 341 00:18:20,659 --> 00:18:18,840 You Olivia 342 00:18:24,350 --> 00:18:20,669 I'm gonna retweet that that's pretty 343 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:24,360 cool tonight came through all right see 344 00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:26,970 be dark all one word by the way see be 345 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:32,750 dark right see be dark one word okay 346 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:35,510 where am I at 347 00:18:42,289 --> 00:18:39,510 don't forget we're gonna be of course at 348 00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:42,299 contact in the desert this week in tune 349 00:18:45,889 --> 00:18:45,120 1st through the 4th we leave Thursday we 350 00:18:47,950 --> 00:18:45,899 get there Friday 351 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:47,960 but then right after that 352 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:52,130 is our sole tech gathering and also in 353 00:18:58,750 --> 00:18:55,250 between and we'll start to make the 354 00:19:02,050 --> 00:18:58,760 announcements on this June 23rd here in 355 00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:02,060 Los Angeles California is disclosure 356 00:19:09,370 --> 00:19:05,900 fest and I think it's disclosure fest 357 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:09,380 dot org you can go there for information 358 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:13,460 this is a free festival in downtown Los 359 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:15,770 Angeles at the historical Los Angeles 360 00:19:21,730 --> 00:19:19,370 Park downtown next to Chinatown 361 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:21,740 beautiful beautiful place I think it's 362 00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:26,210 about 35 acres multiple stages lots of 363 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:28,220 speakers and and things to do and hang 364 00:19:34,930 --> 00:19:31,430 out so that's going down June 23rd I 365 00:19:37,450 --> 00:19:34,940 will be there there is a long list of 366 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:37,460 speakers and I'll get all of that 367 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:38,450 together and so to make that 368 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:40,330 announcement - and then right after that 369 00:19:47,410 --> 00:19:44,690 August 9th through the 12th is Sol Tech 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John Tory succeeded 426 00:22:47,390 --> 00:22:44,580 him as mayor on December 1st 2014 while 427 00:22:50,510 --> 00:22:47,400 Ford regained his former seat for the 428 00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:50,520 City Council he was hospitalized and 429 00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:54,300 diagnosed with a tumor in September 2014 430 00:23:01,070 --> 00:22:57,350 he received treatment for the cancer but 431 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:01,080 was able to go back briefly to City Hall 432 00:23:08,060 --> 00:23:04,830 but ended up dying in March 2016 after 433 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:08,070 chemotherapy was ineffective happy 434 00:23:15,299 --> 00:23:12,960 birthday Rob Ford OTD on this day in 435 00:23:20,509 --> 00:23:15,309 history 1980 436 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:20,519 seven yes he died Sara yeah he died yeah 437 00:23:31,889 --> 00:23:26,490 1987 on this day in history Mateus rust 438 00:23:34,529 --> 00:23:31,899 Mateus roost a 19 year old amateur pilot 439 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:34,539 from West Germany takes off from 440 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:36,940 Helsinki Finland travels through more 441 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:39,870 than 400 miles of Soviet airspace 442 00:23:46,889 --> 00:23:43,809 Lance's small Cessna craft in red square 443 00:23:49,619 --> 00:23:46,899 next to the Kremlin he was arrested for 444 00:23:50,129 --> 00:23:49,629 violating Soviet airspace and sentenced 445 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:50,139 to prison 446 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:53,289 he served 18 months before being 447 00:23:59,749 --> 00:23:56,710 released and that was a big deal my 448 00:24:03,269 --> 00:23:59,759 memory says cover of Time magazine 449 00:24:06,869 --> 00:24:03,279 that's my that's my that was a that was 450 00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:06,879 a really big deal here's your fader fact 451 00:24:14,999 --> 00:24:11,980 for the day there are no Walmart's in 452 00:24:19,379 --> 00:24:15,009 New York City that's right 453 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:19,389 or Staten Island or Brooklyn Queens nope 454 00:24:27,779 --> 00:24:24,190 nada you got to go to New Jersey or a 455 00:24:29,609 --> 00:24:27,789 Long Island but there's no Walmart's in 456 00:24:32,369 --> 00:24:29,619 New York City can you believe that 457 00:24:34,109 --> 00:24:32,379 Staten Island Brooklyn Queens and you 458 00:24:36,629 --> 00:24:34,119 know how I did it you know how I found 459 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:36,639 that out I looked up Walmart New York 460 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:39,279 City today and went to Google look at 461 00:24:44,220 --> 00:24:43,360 the maps there aren't any I couldn't 462 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:44,230 believe it 463 00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:46,210 so there's your fader fact and I thought 464 00:24:49,409 --> 00:24:47,769 that you would enjoy that there are no 465 00:24:53,749 --> 00:24:49,419 Walmart's in New York City you could 466 00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:53,759 walk down Rita and I when we were in 467 00:24:59,399 --> 00:24:56,529 Manhattan last year we're walking around 468 00:25:02,009 --> 00:24:59,409 and we wanted to go to we were eating 469 00:25:04,619 --> 00:25:02,019 and then we wanted to we had to we had 470 00:25:06,509 --> 00:25:04,629 to go to Macy's I needed a shirt right I 471 00:25:09,299 --> 00:25:06,519 thought all right let's go to Macy's all 472 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:09,309 right so walk no Street and across the 473 00:25:17,460 --> 00:25:13,570 street for Macy's is a target right so 474 00:25:21,509 --> 00:25:17,470 you got a target in Manhattan but you 475 00:25:23,369 --> 00:25:21,519 don't have a Walmart yeah the targets 476 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:23,379 pretty nice too it's pretty big tonight 477 00:25:28,980 --> 00:25:25,600 very special guest Steve Murillo is here 478 00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:28,990 and I as promised we are going 479 00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,380 to talk UFOs all night long I just got a 480 00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:34,240 text from Steve so I think he's 481 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:35,350 listening right now 482 00:25:41,549 --> 00:25:39,490 Steve text me back right now if you're 483 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:41,559 listening to me I just want to know are 484 00:25:49,169 --> 00:25:45,450 you listening to the show I don't know I 485 00:25:54,270 --> 00:25:49,179 wanted to talk about something well I do 486 00:25:58,410 --> 00:25:54,280 every night at about this time I need 487 00:26:04,260 --> 00:25:58,420 you to think about this our universe is 488 00:26:06,540 --> 00:26:04,270 expanding we hear about this all the 489 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:06,550 time and it's it's expanding faster 490 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:11,410 faster the rate is increasing so check 491 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:12,160 this out 492 00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:16,330 I know that I try to drive home with 493 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:19,870 with everyone every night just how many 494 00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:24,570 galaxies stars and planets are out there 495 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:27,100 and all you have to do is look up right 496 00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:31,000 go look at some Hubble images and and 497 00:26:38,970 --> 00:26:37,240 going and and just observe man has been 498 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:38,980 doing this forever 499 00:26:45,450 --> 00:26:40,750 looking up at the sky looking at the 500 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:45,460 stars right well just imagine one day 501 00:27:01,770 --> 00:26:50,470 and it will happen when you look up and 502 00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:01,780 see nothing nada eventually everything 503 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:04,480 will expand to the point where there 504 00:27:12,780 --> 00:27:09,330 will be nothing but vast empty space 505 00:27:14,820 --> 00:27:12,790 everywhere everything there will be 506 00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:14,830 nothing there the universe is gonna 507 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:17,860 expand to the point where it's gonna be 508 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:21,130 billions of light-years to the next 509 00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:26,290 closest anything that's what's gonna 510 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:29,670 happen one day 511 00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:36,480 the last star in our universe will die 512 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:48,980 nothing everything will be doc I'm sure 513 00:27:56,010 --> 00:27:53,049 by that point billions from the years 514 00:27:59,279 --> 00:27:56,020 from now when the last star dies out we 515 00:28:05,549 --> 00:27:59,289 will have built massive artificial 516 00:28:12,510 --> 00:28:05,559 planets right starships and we'll just 517 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:12,520 drive around to nothing cruising the 518 00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:18,610 blackness of it all it's a heavy thought 519 00:28:33,210 --> 00:28:23,440 isn't it where you could be on earth and 520 00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:33,220 look up and no stars our Sun at that 521 00:28:42,029 --> 00:28:38,860 point should still be here maybe we will 522 00:28:46,110 --> 00:28:42,039 have survived comets and asteroids and 523 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,120 and everything else that could possibly 524 00:28:51,659 --> 00:28:48,880 go wrong and maybe we'll still be on 525 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:51,669 this planet maybe not but just imagine 526 00:28:59,970 --> 00:28:53,770 that for a second looking up and seeing 527 00:29:04,620 --> 00:28:59,980 nothing now at that point if you were on 528 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:04,630 a ship and you were flying through the 529 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:06,490 universe at that point cruising through 530 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:09,299 the universe he wouldn't be flying and 531 00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:12,130 there would be nothing there you 532 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:13,990 wouldn't see any stars you wouldn't see 533 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:15,580 anything everything would be too far 534 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:20,070 away we would not see anything but the 535 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:23,470 the things that you might see would be 536 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:32,080 lone rogue little lit up photons just 537 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:36,370 crazy little little things flying by but 538 00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:41,080 as far as stars go no and and when the 539 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:44,470 last star goes out you know the last 540 00:29:55,450 --> 00:29:49,450 star then there is nothing there will be 541 00:29:58,060 --> 00:29:55,460 nothing and when the stars die out 542 00:30:00,760 --> 00:29:58,070 and depending on how they want to die 543 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:00,770 and what they want to do there will 544 00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:03,710 literally be nothing left of it either 545 00:30:12,090 --> 00:30:08,080 there'll be nothing in the universe 546 00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:12,100 it's a crazy thought isn't it because 547 00:30:18,010 --> 00:30:16,100 today I talked about I mentioned last 548 00:30:19,630 --> 00:30:18,020 week if you held up a dime you know I 549 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:19,640 said my guitar pick right if you're hell 550 00:30:25,180 --> 00:30:21,650 of a guitar pick at a blank spot in the 551 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,190 sky anywhere where there's no stars you 552 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:26,960 know right there there's a hundred and 553 00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:30,050 fifty thousand galaxies with a trillion 554 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:32,260 stars in each one right right there 555 00:30:41,770 --> 00:30:37,510 that's what we have but one day we won't 556 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:41,780 strange isn't it you know and and when 557 00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:45,200 you look at things like that making 558 00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:49,100 contact now making contact and reaching 559 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:50,900 out is what you want to do they're 560 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:53,570 getting farther away we're getting 561 00:30:59,710 --> 00:30:56,930 farther away we're spreading apart the 562 00:31:02,950 --> 00:30:59,720 universe is a sphere you know expanding 563 00:31:06,730 --> 00:31:02,960 and going and eventually it's just gonna 564 00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:06,740 be nothing it's not right that's why you 565 00:31:09,820 --> 00:31:08,240 come to fade to black 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--> 00:36:14,299 j-turn radio this segment of fade to 654 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:16,579 black is proudly brought to you by life 655 00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:19,730 change t go to the banners over at jimmy 656 00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:22,400 church radio calm click use the promo 657 00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:26,000 code fader fa de r and you will get 658 00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:30,470 yourself free shipping tonight our first 659 00:36:37,059 --> 00:36:33,470 guest and our last guest is Steve 660 00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:37,069 Murillo he attended the United States 661 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:38,900 Naval Academy where he received his 662 00:36:44,109 --> 00:36:41,690 Bachelor degree of Science in systems 663 00:36:45,539 --> 00:36:44,119 engineering in 1982 he was commissioned 664 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:45,549 as an officer in the Marine Corps 665 00:36:50,529 --> 00:36:48,230 attended flight school served for seven 666 00:36:52,359 --> 00:36:50,539 years of active duty as a jet pilot and 667 00:36:55,450 --> 00:36:52,369 maintenance officer for his squadron 668 00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,460 after the Marine Corps he went to TRW 669 00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:56,960 where he became the power subsystem 670 00:37:02,829 --> 00:36:58,970 engineer for a satellite program known 671 00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:02,839 as the tdrss tracking and data relay 672 00:37:08,319 --> 00:37:06,020 satellite system flight 7 steve was the 673 00:37:11,019 --> 00:37:08,329 mufon los angeles director he held this 674 00:37:12,789 --> 00:37:11,029 position for 13 years conducting field 675 00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:12,799 investigations and of course those 676 00:37:18,609 --> 00:37:15,470 famous monthly meetings until June of 677 00:37:20,799 --> 00:37:18,619 2013 now Steve heads up you pars Los 678 00:37:24,579 --> 00:37:20,809 Angeles the UFO impera normal Research 679 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:24,589 Society Los Angeles Chapter he and his 680 00:37:28,269 --> 00:37:26,420 group investigate all things UFO and 681 00:37:30,490 --> 00:37:28,279 paranormal and have monthly meetings in 682 00:37:32,859 --> 00:37:30,500 Studio City California you can go to you 683 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:32,869 pars LA dot org and I would like to 684 00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:34,970 welcome back to fade to black Steve 685 00:37:40,539 --> 00:37:39,529 Murillo Steve good evening I'm doing 686 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:40,549 good I just sneezed 687 00:37:52,539 --> 00:37:48,049 I hit the COFF button it's even better 688 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:52,549 to hear your Steve and I I want to 689 00:37:57,339 --> 00:37:55,910 welcome you back it's been it's been too 690 00:38:01,450 --> 00:37:57,349 long since you've been on the show first 691 00:38:04,089 --> 00:38:01,460 off but your life is extremely busy just 692 00:38:06,279 --> 00:38:04,099 like everybody else is and I just want 693 00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:06,289 to thank you for taking the time out for 694 00:38:09,970 --> 00:38:07,670 coming on the show tonight so we can 695 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:09,980 have another dynamic conversation 696 00:38:14,260 --> 00:38:11,990 you've got you pars you've got on 697 00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:14,270 stellar you've got contact in the desert 698 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:16,640 coming up this week you're a very busy 699 00:38:21,849 --> 00:38:19,310 man and and every single month month 700 00:38:23,950 --> 00:38:21,859 after month you have your you know your 701 00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:23,960 famous meetings out here in Studio City 702 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:26,390 California man you have never rested 703 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:30,410 have you I do not rest man no rest for 704 00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:32,930 the wicked and you know we're sort of on 705 00:38:37,630 --> 00:38:34,609 a mission you and I along with a lot of 706 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:37,640 other people out there and you know it's 707 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,490 about it's about disclosure it's about 708 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,560 forcing disclosure if we ever think 709 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:44,480 about doing that and I don't know if 710 00:38:47,650 --> 00:38:45,890 we're going to have to it seems like 711 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:47,660 it's almost happening organically now 712 00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:51,290 and I am so looking forward to contact 713 00:38:53,890 --> 00:38:52,460 in the desert because we're going to 714 00:38:56,349 --> 00:38:53,900 have a great time there there's there's 715 00:38:58,750 --> 00:38:56,359 going to be a lot of new information 716 00:39:00,220 --> 00:38:58,760 revealed and I'm working I've been 717 00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:00,230 working on a presentation for the last 718 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:04,609 two weeks and I hope it's good the 719 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:06,770 audience doesn't fall asleep but it's 720 00:39:11,650 --> 00:39:09,050 going to have a lot to do with you know 721 00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:11,660 what's next you know we have disclosure 722 00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:14,420 hopefully coming up soon but then what's 723 00:39:19,569 --> 00:39:15,230 next 724 00:39:22,359 --> 00:39:19,579 you know once man kind gets their mind 725 00:39:26,589 --> 00:39:22,369 wrapped around that reality what do we 726 00:39:29,050 --> 00:39:26,599 do next we go yeah and you because you 727 00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:29,060 you seem to be at the center of it all 728 00:39:36,099 --> 00:39:33,700 and and and what I mean by that Steve is 729 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:36,109 you doing 730 00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,650 MUFON for 13 years the largest MUFON 731 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:41,359 chapter in the world right here in Los 732 00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:46,730 Angeles and it's it it was big and now 733 00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:50,390 you pars every single month you gather 734 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:52,550 you know a hundred or 200 people 735 00:39:58,300 --> 00:39:55,760 together what is the atmosphere they're 736 00:40:00,420 --> 00:39:58,310 like now what are they talking about as 737 00:40:03,339 --> 00:40:00,430 certainly when it comes to disclosure 738 00:40:05,230 --> 00:40:03,349 how excited are they because you get you 739 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:05,240 get everybody's opinions out there oh 740 00:40:09,790 --> 00:40:06,650 absolutely 741 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:09,800 you know most of these people have been 742 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:12,020 waiting for it for so long and a lot of 743 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:14,450 them you know they've been hearing it 744 00:40:18,609 --> 00:40:16,190 you're in you're out it's coming it's 745 00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:18,619 coming it's coming but now it really 746 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:21,260 looks like it is coming you know we had 747 00:40:26,609 --> 00:40:23,200 kind of a soft disclosure happened 748 00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:26,619 December through the Navy through Louis 749 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:27,400 Elizondo 750 00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:31,210 and all that and you know we're trying 751 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:33,430 to make sense of all that you know 752 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:35,290 trying to figure out sort the wheat from 753 00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:38,050 the chaff so to speak but the audience 754 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:40,390 my audience my people will call my 755 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:43,150 people my tribe you know they're sort of 756 00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:44,410 sitting on the edge of their seat right 757 00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:50,560 now and it's really great timing for 758 00:40:56,130 --> 00:40:53,200 something like on stellar you know on 759 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:56,140 stellar is it is a team effort and and 760 00:40:59,640 --> 00:40:58,210 the team even consists literally 761 00:41:01,230 --> 00:40:59,650 consists of the people that are members 762 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:01,240 that's that's really the team that's 763 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:04,450 what's driving it but it's vision it was 764 00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:07,960 created to sort of drive to drive 765 00:41:12,030 --> 00:41:09,790 continue to drive this narrative this 766 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:12,040 disclosure narrative it's a place where 767 00:41:16,349 --> 00:41:14,050 people can get together and discuss 768 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:16,359 these things without fear of ridicule 769 00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:19,089 without fear being made fun of everybody 770 00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:20,920 on on stellar this is what I love about 771 00:41:25,220 --> 00:41:22,270 this thing Jimmy it's a community where 772 00:41:27,569 --> 00:41:25,230 everybody there is sort of on the same 773 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:27,579 frequency on the same vibration you know 774 00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:29,650 what I mean and we can talk and have 775 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:33,390 actually intellectual discussions about 776 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:36,970 abduction about UFOs about free energy 777 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:38,710 things like that so that's what on 778 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:41,170 stellar was designed to be built that's 779 00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:42,640 what it was designed for is to create 780 00:41:46,890 --> 00:41:44,980 that forum and you know there are a ton 781 00:41:48,089 --> 00:41:46,900 of things in the works that are gonna 782 00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,099 make on stellar even better than it 783 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:50,079 already is so I'm really excited about 784 00:41:59,130 --> 00:41:54,970 that well the the thing that makes on 785 00:42:03,300 --> 00:41:59,140 stellar so cool is what makes you Parrs 786 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:03,310 so cool right I have said this many 787 00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:05,890 times Steve the first time I went to a 788 00:42:15,210 --> 00:42:10,390 MUFON meeting 10 years ago out there in 789 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:15,220 a studio city and I'm remember let me 790 00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:16,510 interrupt you for a second I remember 791 00:42:22,050 --> 00:42:19,839 you were you were you know you you wore 792 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:22,060 a suit it wasn't you didn't have a tie 793 00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:24,400 on you had a nice suit on it was if I 794 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:25,359 remember was kind of a cream-colored 795 00:42:31,319 --> 00:42:29,200 suit and Wolf McCarron introduced me and 796 00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:31,329 you were very humble but yeah I could 797 00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:32,680 tell you were there for a reason or 798 00:42:36,940 --> 00:42:35,980 purpose and it was cool and you know guy 799 00:42:40,210 --> 00:42:36,950 that was 10 years ago 800 00:42:42,370 --> 00:42:40,220 I know that was ten years ago and I was 801 00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:42,380 sports casting back then I wasn't even 802 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:43,790 you know I wasn't doing fade to black 803 00:42:53,710 --> 00:42:49,760 and so but anyway I showed up there and 804 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:53,720 I this is what I remember it was so much 805 00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:56,690 like what on stellar is today I was 806 00:43:01,780 --> 00:42:59,359 standing in the middle of the room 807 00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:01,790 listening to everybody talk and I'm 808 00:43:05,650 --> 00:43:03,950 listening to Alex Mastretta I'm 809 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,660 listening literally listen to what he's 810 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:07,280 saying to somebody else about a sighting 811 00:43:12,250 --> 00:43:09,410 and they were referring to another case 812 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,260 from 20 years before that how they were 813 00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:14,000 similar and I turned the other direction 814 00:43:19,450 --> 00:43:16,609 and and wolf is talking to somebody else 815 00:43:20,829 --> 00:43:19,460 about you know area 51 and I turned to 816 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:20,839 my left and somebody is talking about 817 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:22,880 this abduction experience that they went 818 00:43:29,250 --> 00:43:26,240 through and I'm standing there saying to 819 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:29,260 myself I'm with my people 820 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:34,310 everybody here is talking freely right 821 00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:37,250 there just letting it all out and I just 822 00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:42,950 felt so at home and that is exactly what 823 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:44,990 on stellar represents and you're 824 00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:48,770 absolutely right about that you having 825 00:43:54,339 --> 00:43:51,920 you pars and being able to put this on 826 00:43:56,050 --> 00:43:54,349 every single month this audience needs 827 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:56,060 to understand we're talking about a 828 00:44:01,180 --> 00:43:57,680 hundred to two hundred people that get 829 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:01,190 together not not 20 not ten not five but 830 00:44:06,490 --> 00:44:04,130 a very large group that gets together 831 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:06,500 every single month but first Tuesday 832 00:44:14,050 --> 00:44:11,510 right third Tuesday third Tuesday of 833 00:44:19,329 --> 00:44:14,060 every month for the last you know 15 834 00:44:22,690 --> 00:44:19,339 years right up 18 years 18 years and so 835 00:44:26,589 --> 00:44:22,700 anyway no Holi I know I know and and 836 00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,599 that freedom is what people need to just 837 00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,119 go and share their experiences and what 838 00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:32,240 their interests are and what I found 839 00:44:39,450 --> 00:44:34,569 just like what on stellar represents now 840 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:39,460 you with MUFON back in 2000 841 00:44:47,250 --> 00:44:42,130 when he made the change I guess that was 842 00:44:50,250 --> 00:44:47,260 13 yeah yeah yeah 2013 middle 2013 you 843 00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:50,260 felt that the paranormal isn't just 844 00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:53,860 represented by this community isn't just 845 00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:55,360 represented by UFOs 846 00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:57,910 it's everything that falls underneath 847 00:45:03,870 --> 00:45:00,880 that umbrella and that everything could 848 00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:03,880 be connected and you wanted to be able 849 00:45:09,450 --> 00:45:06,940 to investigate all things and that's 850 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,460 what I'm stellar is on stellar is you 851 00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:11,920 know zero-point energy it's it's it's 852 00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,230 holistic sits it's health it's the 853 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:16,560 universe it's Egypt it's ancient history 854 00:45:24,780 --> 00:45:20,770 lost history near-death experiences time 855 00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:24,790 travel parallel worlds UFOs right it 856 00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:28,510 that is what this community represents 857 00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:31,420 and and just like what goes on out at 858 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:33,430 you pars right and that's what that's 859 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:34,890 why you've decided to make the change 860 00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:36,370 that's right 861 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:38,190 that's exactly right yeah you know 862 00:45:41,970 --> 00:45:40,090 investigating UFOs I've said as a 863 00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:41,980 million times investigating ufology 864 00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:43,660 investing said investigating say in 865 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:45,700 abduction you'll find paranormal 866 00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:48,400 activity surrounding the individual 867 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:50,200 who's being abducted periodically you 868 00:45:55,890 --> 00:45:53,050 know or you know people have seen 869 00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:55,900 Bigfoot when they see a UFO and and you 870 00:45:59,760 --> 00:45:57,640 know I did I did not believe in Bigfoot 871 00:46:02,070 --> 00:45:59,770 until just a few years ago when when 872 00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:02,080 Mastretta and I came across a track with 873 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:03,660 a few other people we were out actually 874 00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:07,090 near East SETI Ranch and wandering 875 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:09,550 around in the and the outback and sure 876 00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:11,530 enough prints couldn't believe it 877 00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:14,500 but anyway so now I believe believe in 878 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:18,430 Bigfoot my point is over the years we've 879 00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:20,050 come to see that all of these things 880 00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:22,510 things seem to be related in some way 881 00:46:28,530 --> 00:46:25,440 they have some connection which is 882 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:28,540 outside our normal field of you you know 883 00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:31,690 outside of normal reference and I think 884 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:33,880 that investigating that connection 885 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:36,250 investigating trying to trying to learn 886 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:38,560 trying to discover what that is what 887 00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:41,050 does it mean you know shoot a hundred 888 00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:43,000 years from now it'll just be like old 889 00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:45,190 hat every go why couldn't they figure 890 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:47,620 that out right god it was so obvious it 891 00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:48,850 was right in front of them they couldn't 892 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:53,020 figure it out but so you know but right 893 00:46:57,450 --> 00:46:53,260 now 894 00:46:59,460 --> 00:46:57,460 are out there looking for this and you 895 00:47:01,230 --> 00:46:59,470 know down the road hopefully we'll we'll 896 00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:01,240 have a little star pinned on our on the 897 00:47:03,330 --> 00:47:02,860 collar of our shirt because we figured 898 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:03,340 it out 899 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:07,450 what did what did Jan say when Jan Harz 900 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:11,710 an the executive director of MUFON did 901 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:13,570 you suggest to him that she wanted to go 902 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:15,850 and investigate ghosts and and Bigfoot 903 00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:18,250 and other things too as well yeah I do 904 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:20,350 you know that no that never entered the 905 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:24,640 discussion you know it wasn't it wasn't 906 00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:26,890 for that reason that we departed there 907 00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:28,240 were some other reasons that I don't 908 00:47:32,070 --> 00:47:30,340 really want to go no no no no no that's 909 00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:32,080 not that's that's not what I'm 910 00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:35,310 suggesting I was just wondering what he 911 00:47:41,550 --> 00:47:39,190 how he reacted to that suggestion and 912 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:41,560 you didn't okay so now let me reverse 913 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:44,290 lis but on the other hand and not to put 914 00:47:50,250 --> 00:47:46,570 words in Jan's mouth but I bet if you 915 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:50,260 asked him now how he feels about you 916 00:47:54,750 --> 00:47:52,210 know some relationship between 917 00:47:56,550 --> 00:47:54,760 paranormal activity and ufology I bet 918 00:47:58,770 --> 00:47:56,560 you he'd I bet you he'd say he believes 919 00:48:02,040 --> 00:47:58,780 in you know again I can't speak for him 920 00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,050 but it's only because there's so much 921 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:04,000 data out there that it's almost 922 00:48:07,290 --> 00:48:06,010 undeniable you have to once you see 923 00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:07,300 there's a pattern you guys you can't 924 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:09,640 just ignore it you I mean I saw Lou I'll 925 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:13,930 call him right now Nevada he's probably 926 00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:16,810 probably eating dinner no but she has a 927 00:48:21,060 --> 00:48:18,700 great guy he's a great guy he's a great 928 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:21,070 guy but okay so here's what's 929 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:22,810 interesting we just finish up real quick 930 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:25,480 with Jan he had a literally nuts and 931 00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:28,390 bolts deciding that drove him into this 932 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:29,680 world 933 00:48:33,930 --> 00:48:31,810 I mean the the UFO that he and his 934 00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:33,940 brother saw when they were young I think 935 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:36,400 they were in their early teens I don't 936 00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,290 want to know quite remember but anyway 937 00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:40,000 this thing literally had rivets on it 938 00:48:45,570 --> 00:48:42,310 was a UFO you know classic UFO it had 939 00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,580 legs you know tripods what-have-you but 940 00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:48,400 he said it looked like he saw rivets he 941 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:51,100 saw rust you know sort of a nuts and 942 00:48:56,910 --> 00:48:54,400 bolts UFO so I'm not surprised that 943 00:48:59,760 --> 00:48:56,920 through the years he came he approached 944 00:49:00,900 --> 00:48:59,770 the subject from that direction do you 945 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:00,910 know what I mean 946 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,370 but then over the years I bet you with a 947 00:49:07,170 --> 00:49:05,200 lot of seasoning and experience I bet 948 00:49:08,910 --> 00:49:07,180 you he'd have to admit it 949 00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:08,920 maybe not I'd love to I'd love to get 950 00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:10,150 him on the phone sometime and talk to 951 00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:13,060 him about that but yeah well what okay 952 00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:18,520 so what would your reaction be if move 953 00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:22,750 on starts doing Bigfoot I'd welcome it 954 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:25,060 I'd say hey welcome you know this is 955 00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:27,190 awesome because you've just multiplied 956 00:49:31,170 --> 00:49:29,860 your you know your work force I mean if 957 00:49:32,820 --> 00:49:31,180 we really want to get to the truth of 958 00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:32,830 all these things right what we have to 959 00:49:38,730 --> 00:49:35,590 do is keep an open mind and communicate 960 00:49:40,770 --> 00:49:38,740 right share information it can't be 961 00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:40,780 about oh I discovered this or I'm the 962 00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:42,790 one that figured out that you know that 963 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:45,670 that ego thing has to go away and I know 964 00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:47,770 that's been prevalent in the past or a 965 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,080 among some people and certainly not 966 00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,760 January I'm not I'm not seeing those 967 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:53,680 guys what I'm saying and you know who 968 00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,210 I'm talking about these sorts of sort of 969 00:49:59,130 --> 00:49:57,760 researchers who they're on the circuit 970 00:50:00,810 --> 00:49:59,140 and they want to be you know they're 971 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:00,820 preening and they're kind of walking 972 00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,050 around like they have all the answers 973 00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:04,960 and the truth of this phenomenon is you 974 00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:06,580 don't have all the answers because the 975 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:09,520 phenomenon is intelligent enough to show 976 00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:11,050 you one thing over here and kind of 977 00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,880 misdirect you when it's actually 978 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:14,800 something over here that it's up to sort 979 00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:16,450 of a sleight of hand thing like a 980 00:50:21,870 --> 00:50:18,430 magician might do it actually I think 981 00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:21,880 the phenomenon is intelligent and knows 982 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:23,950 what your next move it is it anticipate 983 00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:27,250 your next move and so presents in a 984 00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:30,540 certain way possibly to your expectation 985 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:35,920 the the part of Bigfoot I'm still on the 986 00:50:40,770 --> 00:50:38,890 fence right I have in Oakland I don't 987 00:50:45,060 --> 00:50:40,780 blame you I don't blame ya I'm still on 988 00:50:49,830 --> 00:50:45,070 the fence but let's say this what do we 989 00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:49,840 do when you know ET steps off of the 990 00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:01,590 there there is that possibility and the 991 00:51:07,050 --> 00:51:03,960 other the other part that I find very 992 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:07,060 interesting and that there's been plenty 993 00:51:14,550 --> 00:51:11,650 of reports out of out of Russia out of 994 00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:14,560 China different mountainous regions 995 00:51:18,089 --> 00:51:15,910 around the world 996 00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:18,099 where there have been lights and UFOs 997 00:51:24,210 --> 00:51:21,670 and any Yeti or a Bigfoot sighting on 998 00:51:29,069 --> 00:51:24,220 the same night in the same area in the 999 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:29,079 same towns yep yep yep so what does that 1000 00:51:34,049 --> 00:51:31,770 mean what if these things are actually 1001 00:51:36,539 --> 00:51:34,059 intelligent beasts if you will I don't 1002 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:36,549 know I you know I mean it you can you 1003 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:40,030 can imagine just about anything right we 1004 00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,470 have to get to the data to actually 1005 00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:43,359 measure it but the problem is the data 1006 00:51:47,849 --> 00:51:46,030 is elusive doesn't want to be found so 1007 00:51:50,279 --> 00:51:47,859 you have to go out there and and hunt 1008 00:51:53,490 --> 00:51:50,289 and you know it's funny if you have an 1009 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:53,500 open heart open mind a lot of times 1010 00:51:57,839 --> 00:51:55,690 that's enough for the phenomenon to 1011 00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:57,849 present but if you have sort of a 1012 00:52:02,789 --> 00:52:00,640 selfish this is I'm now I'm just kind of 1013 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:02,799 like thinking about this right for 1014 00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:03,970 people who fail people who were 1015 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:06,400 successful at this the people who are at 1016 00:52:10,970 --> 00:52:09,250 it for themselves tend to shut the 1017 00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:10,980 phenomenon down they kind of create this 1018 00:52:16,650 --> 00:52:14,710 psyche psychic barrier that doesn't 1019 00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:16,660 allow them to experience the phenomenon 1020 00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:20,079 but so this protocol that Steven Greer 1021 00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:22,329 came up with a lot of that is sort of 1022 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:25,000 about clearing your mind and clearer and 1023 00:52:30,359 --> 00:52:27,369 opening your heart to the possibility of 1024 00:52:33,269 --> 00:52:30,369 it right right project projecting the 1025 00:52:37,650 --> 00:52:33,279 not just thought but actually emotional 1026 00:52:40,859 --> 00:52:37,660 energy out there in an open way now does 1027 00:52:43,380 --> 00:52:40,869 that open you up to not just good but 1028 00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:43,390 evil possibly you know bad entities bad 1029 00:52:51,180 --> 00:52:47,470 influences possibly you know there is a 1030 00:52:54,839 --> 00:52:51,190 woman out in Pine Mountain who she's had 1031 00:52:57,089 --> 00:52:54,849 several visits you know not abduction 1032 00:52:59,819 --> 00:52:57,099 she doesn't describe abduction but she 1033 00:53:01,980 --> 00:52:59,829 has had sightings and she's had not just 1034 00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:01,990 sightings of craft but sightings of 1035 00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:04,480 beings on the ground just out in the 1036 00:53:10,410 --> 00:53:06,700 woods just outside her house but she 1037 00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:10,420 kind of is afraid of it and she puts 1038 00:53:15,750 --> 00:53:13,089 this sort of golden barrier around her 1039 00:53:18,539 --> 00:53:15,760 you know when she's meditating and she 1040 00:53:19,890 --> 00:53:18,549 meditates regularly to protect yourself 1041 00:53:21,539 --> 00:53:19,900 from these things that might have 1042 00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,549 something to do with her Christianity 1043 00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:22,720 she was brought up in the Christian 1044 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:25,119 world and so we're trained you know in 1045 00:53:28,109 --> 00:53:26,380 that world we're trying to think of 1046 00:53:29,550 --> 00:53:28,119 angels and demons right you have 1047 00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:29,560 positive and negative 1048 00:53:34,140 --> 00:53:32,380 that make my part of it but maybe 1049 00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:34,150 there's something to it you know we know 1050 00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:36,400 that in the abduction experience it's 1051 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:38,350 not always pleasant you know when you 1052 00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:39,910 get those little gray guys cake and yeah 1053 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:43,480 it's not always you know rosy you know 1054 00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:44,890 I'm sure a lot of people out there 1055 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:46,390 hearing my words right now know exactly 1056 00:53:49,740 --> 00:53:47,470 what I'm talking about 1057 00:53:52,290 --> 00:53:49,750 yet there are also other experiences in 1058 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:52,300 abduction where there's a lot of love 1059 00:53:58,500 --> 00:53:55,450 and light and happiness and a feeling of 1060 00:54:01,260 --> 00:53:58,510 family to the point where the the 1061 00:54:04,020 --> 00:54:01,270 experiencer identifies more with the 1062 00:54:05,310 --> 00:54:04,030 alien beings as their family and feel 1063 00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:05,320 like they're just some kind of foreign 1064 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:07,600 or interloper on this planet kind of 1065 00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:09,910 going through a mission so it's a really 1066 00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:12,760 really interesting phenomenon the 1067 00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:14,740 abduction well you bring up a really 1068 00:54:21,450 --> 00:54:18,040 good point and and pine mountain for the 1069 00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:21,460 audience pine mountain is about I don't 1070 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:25,960 know 50 60 miles away just north of us 1071 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:30,850 in from Burbank up the five freeway it's 1072 00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:33,910 it's all five Ranger Park let's go just 1073 00:54:37,620 --> 00:54:35,350 go west and you'll hit it the 1074 00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:37,630 astronomers use it because it's an 85 1075 00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:38,980 I think eighty five hundred foot pine 1076 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:40,840 mountain is 85 hundred feet beautiful 1077 00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:43,030 huge parking lot up there so once a 1078 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:44,980 month on the new moon you'll go up there 1079 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:46,960 and all these astronomers they have 1080 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:48,490 these telescopes the size of a car 1081 00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:50,530 literally you like the size of a car and 1082 00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:52,150 they're looking at the sky and you can 1083 00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:53,830 just walk around and talk to them and 1084 00:54:59,610 --> 00:54:56,920 and do an Sky Watch all night cool place 1085 00:55:01,620 --> 00:54:59,620 place but at the base argent at the base 1086 00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:01,630 of that that's where Pine Mountain Club 1087 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:03,190 is and it's a little development there 1088 00:55:08,310 --> 00:55:05,890 that somebody built in the 70s it's a 1089 00:55:09,930 --> 00:55:08,320 hot spot you know and it's not just this 1090 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:09,940 lady that I've interviewed who's had 1091 00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:12,970 sightings what brought us out there mr. 1092 00:55:17,370 --> 00:55:14,710 a Tamiya administrator and wolf went out 1093 00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:17,380 there because we had heard of multiple 1094 00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:19,000 people in town having a sighting on the 1095 00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:19,870 same night 1096 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:22,150 so we basically interviewed three 1097 00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:23,530 different people she was one of them 1098 00:55:27,570 --> 00:55:25,840 three different groups and they were all 1099 00:55:29,130 --> 00:55:27,580 on different parts of the town so we 1100 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:29,140 kind of triangulated the position of 1101 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:31,210 this thing when it came down and all 1102 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:34,930 that I mean it's phenomenal from the 1103 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:36,850 town calling me later telling me stories 1104 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,050 of account you know things that had 1105 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:40,000 happened to them so it's kind of a hot 1106 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:42,130 spot well 1107 00:55:46,849 --> 00:55:44,890 our cousin who you've met by the way 1108 00:55:50,819 --> 00:55:46,859 they just bought a house up there oh 1109 00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:50,829 really yes we got a place we got away we 1110 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:52,750 got a place we got a place they've got a 1111 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:55,690 night what yeah we can go up there any 1112 00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:58,960 time now but back to my point about Pine 1113 00:56:03,930 --> 00:56:01,599 Mountain here it is it's 5060 miles from 1114 00:56:06,749 --> 00:56:03,940 Los Angeles and you would think it's a 1115 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:06,759 heavy populated area Pine Mountain is 1116 00:56:14,970 --> 00:56:11,410 surrounded by forests that I guarantee 1117 00:56:18,089 --> 00:56:14,980 you the majority humans have never set 1118 00:56:22,890 --> 00:56:18,099 foot on and when we look at the our 1119 00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:22,900 country it seems like we are everywhere 1120 00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:24,670 there's cities everywhere there's towns 1121 00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:27,420 everywhere there's roads everywhere 1122 00:56:31,410 --> 00:56:29,950 everything has been explored I don't 1123 00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:31,420 know what the percentage is teeth 1124 00:56:36,779 --> 00:56:34,000 I really don't but I would say that the 1125 00:56:37,529 --> 00:56:36,789 majority of the United States there's no 1126 00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:37,539 footprints 1127 00:56:44,339 --> 00:56:41,529 nobody has wider crossed it yet and now 1128 00:56:47,279 --> 00:56:44,349 again I'm still on the skeptical side of 1129 00:56:49,499 --> 00:56:47,289 Bigfoot but there are plenty of places 1130 00:56:51,660 --> 00:56:49,509 to go and run and hide and if you don't 1131 00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,670 want to be seen you don't have to be 1132 00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,160 seen in this country that's that's 1133 00:56:57,930 --> 00:56:56,319 absolute you you know I put a number on 1134 00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,940 it maybe 10 percent of our countries 1135 00:57:01,319 --> 00:56:59,680 develop the rest of its just wilderness 1136 00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:01,329 that's right that's you know I'm just 1137 00:57:06,029 --> 00:57:02,559 guessing I don't know but that's what 1138 00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:06,039 feels like and let's take let's let's 1139 00:57:09,059 --> 00:57:07,750 just kind of like use our imagination 1140 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:09,069 for a second and think about this thing 1141 00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:12,250 Bigfoot right okay so what if it's as 1142 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:14,470 and as intelligent as man or maybe you 1143 00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:16,809 know why not why not okay let's give it 1144 00:57:22,349 --> 00:57:19,660 the intelligence of a man the camouflage 1145 00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,359 the mastery of camouflage you know that 1146 00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:24,160 that like a sniper from the Marines 1147 00:57:31,980 --> 00:57:28,140 couldn't do right the scent the the the 1148 00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:31,990 the nose of the the best canine right 1149 00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:34,390 the hearing of the best canine the eyes 1150 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:36,700 of an eagle right you you would not be 1151 00:57:42,509 --> 00:57:39,910 able to sneak up on this thing right but 1152 00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:42,519 yet sometimes people report that they 1153 00:57:47,730 --> 00:57:44,470 they kind of like surprise it you know 1154 00:57:49,470 --> 00:57:47,740 and it jumps up and runs so maybe maybe 1155 00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:49,480 I'm way off on that maybe I'm giving a 1156 00:57:54,990 --> 00:57:52,720 Bigfoot more than he's due but I can 1157 00:57:56,070 --> 00:57:55,000 imagine if this thing evolve over the 1158 00:57:57,570 --> 00:57:56,080 millennia out 1159 00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:57,580 in the wilderness like that with an 1160 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:00,400 intelligence even okay not as 1161 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:02,410 intelligence man but more intelligence 1162 00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:05,230 than an ape let's say maybe that's man 1163 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:08,800 um you know what would it be like you 1164 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:10,930 know what would you know what would that 1165 00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:11,650 be like 1166 00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:14,080 maybe that's what Bigfoot is don't know 1167 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:18,190 Wow and and and back to my point if you 1168 00:58:24,350 --> 00:58:21,370 wanted to look even Ted Kaczynski was 1169 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:24,360 able to you know disappear 1170 00:58:31,830 --> 00:58:30,130 true true so if you don't want to be 1171 00:58:36,650 --> 00:58:31,840 found and you know you know how to run 1172 00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:36,660 there you go now back to the UFO part 1173 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:42,640 where the these sightings of Bigfoot and 1174 00:58:49,110 --> 00:58:46,810 UFO UFOs there has been enough of that 1175 00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:49,120 that has come together where it seems to 1176 00:58:54,180 --> 00:58:51,550 be related it seems like it could be 1177 00:58:56,820 --> 00:58:54,190 connected okay all right that's the 1178 00:58:59,490 --> 00:58:56,830 appearance but there's the other side of 1179 00:59:03,420 --> 00:58:59,500 it there's two points that that I think 1180 00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:03,430 are very interesting one Bigfoot can 1181 00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:06,870 disappear very easily can convey a 1182 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:09,280 shrine T of sightings plenty of sounds 1183 00:59:13,530 --> 00:59:12,610 but seems to be able to vanish I don't 1184 00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:13,540 know I don't know if that's 1185 00:59:17,010 --> 00:59:15,160 interdimensional I don't know if that's 1186 00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:17,020 jumping on a ship I don't know if that's 1187 00:59:23,070 --> 00:59:19,510 I I don't know I don't know cloaking I 1188 00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:23,080 don't know but the other part is there 1189 00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:27,670 hasn't been any offensive intent from 1190 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:32,020 Bigfoot attacking right killing there 1191 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:34,330 hasn't been that part of it either so it 1192 00:59:38,730 --> 00:59:36,570 doesn't seem like they mean any harm 1193 00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:38,740 except for when they throw some rocks 1194 00:59:44,580 --> 00:59:42,760 once in a while well you know kind of a 1195 00:59:47,370 --> 00:59:44,590 yes and no on that one if you look into 1196 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:47,380 the literature a little bit the Indians 1197 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:50,770 you know the indigenous tribes here and 1198 00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:52,810 I don't know the exact tribe reported 1199 00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:54,430 warring with these things at one time 1200 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:56,440 you know stealing women and this and 1201 01:00:00,360 --> 00:59:58,090 that they were coming in and stealing 1202 01:00:02,970 --> 01:00:00,370 this tribes women and running off and 1203 01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:02,980 they had a literal war going on with 1204 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:06,190 these Bigfoot and I'm sure somebody out 1205 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:08,170 there will will you know Twitter you in 1206 01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:11,050 who that what tribe that 1207 01:00:15,809 --> 01:00:13,420 I've heard recent accounts of hunters 1208 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:15,819 not necessarily being attacked but 1209 01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:20,170 surprised the the Bigfoot in one case so 1210 01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:22,030 it's these two guys in a boat okay 1211 01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:25,240 they're fishing and they're maybe I 1212 01:00:30,420 --> 01:00:28,480 don't know 100 feet off the shore and 1213 01:00:34,050 --> 01:00:30,430 they're going to they're rolling over to 1214 01:00:36,359 --> 01:00:34,060 this guy's favorite spot to fish want to 1215 01:00:38,609 --> 01:00:36,369 say it was up in Michigan but I could be 1216 01:00:41,370 --> 01:00:38,619 wrong anyway since these two guys these 1217 01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,380 two brothers and neither one had ever 1218 01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:43,839 had a Bigfoot experience all sudden this 1219 01:00:49,650 --> 01:00:46,720 figure out on the shore steps out from 1220 01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:49,660 behind a tree and heaves a rock at the 1221 01:00:53,849 --> 01:00:51,849 boat a big run a big rock not a little 1222 01:00:55,950 --> 01:00:53,859 rock a big like a boat kind of almost a 1223 01:00:59,040 --> 01:00:55,960 boulder and it goes kerplunk just off 1224 01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:59,050 the bow right and one of these guys is 1225 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:00,640 not having you know thinks of some guy 1226 01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:02,230 out there messing with them and he's not 1227 01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:04,270 having any of he starts yelling so the 1228 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:06,550 thing throws another Rock almost hits 1229 01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:08,890 him again so now the guy's angry and he 1230 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:12,430 rose the boat to shore jumps out in the 1231 01:01:19,170 --> 01:01:15,250 water runs over and then like gets there 1232 01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:19,180 and it's this 8-foot tall creature that 1233 01:01:23,579 --> 01:01:22,060 bellows at him and and so and the other 1234 01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:23,589 brothers the other brothers trying to 1235 01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:25,750 get out of the boat - bellows Adam so 1236 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:28,000 loud but this scream that his the guy 1237 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:29,920 said could he could feel it in his chest 1238 01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:32,290 resonating and sort of paralyzed him and 1239 01:01:36,930 --> 01:01:34,510 just sort of like set him back on his 1240 01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:36,940 heels when he's now he's trying to 1241 01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:39,040 figure out what the heck he's looking at 1242 01:01:46,460 --> 01:01:42,670 and this thing bum rushes him and knocks 1243 01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:46,470 him on his ass and the other guy has a 1244 01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:50,079 357 Magnum in his holster but is so 1245 01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:51,160 dumbfounded 1246 01:01:55,319 --> 01:01:53,020 he doesn't even pull it he doesn't know 1247 01:01:56,910 --> 01:01:55,329 what to do they're petrified and this 1248 01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:56,920 thing's yelling at him making all this 1249 01:02:01,349 --> 01:01:59,410 noise and then runs behind some trees 1250 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:01,359 and takes off and they're just left 1251 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:04,930 there in shock and you know they're 1252 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:06,910 there they're in shock they finally get 1253 01:02:11,099 --> 01:02:08,410 themselves together enough to get back 1254 01:02:13,650 --> 01:02:11,109 home and they go to report this thing to 1255 01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:13,660 the police to the local sheriff or 1256 01:02:18,089 --> 01:02:15,910 whatever it was constable and they just 1257 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:18,099 sat there in shock babbling you know 1258 01:02:22,050 --> 01:02:20,530 being coherent what the what the sheriff 1259 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:22,060 described is incoherent babble about a 1260 01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:23,290 Bigfoot 1261 01:02:26,810 --> 01:02:25,120 they kept saying you saw Barry saw bear 1262 01:02:30,330 --> 01:02:26,820 we didn't see a bear wasn't a bear 1263 01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:30,340 anyway well I gotta tell ya I'm gonna 1264 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:31,420 take a breath I've never heard that 1265 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:33,730 story I'm gonna take a break right here 1266 01:02:38,610 --> 01:02:36,910 our guest tonight Steve Marilla talking 1267 01:02:40,050 --> 01:02:38,620 a little Bigfoot talking UFOs we're 1268 01:02:42,090 --> 01:02:40,060 doing it all tonight 1269 01:02:45,570 --> 01:02:42,100 it's fade to black I am your host Jimmy 1270 01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:45,580 Church and I don't know why but I don't 1271 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:47,380 have my music what's going on with that 1272 01:02:56,550 --> 01:02:55,050 Steve is it you is it used to see it 1273 01:03:00,000 --> 01:02:56,560 fade to black 1274 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:00,010 it's paid to black hi Meryl Timmy church 1275 01:03:11,540 --> 01:03:02,770 more with Steve Murillo right after this 1276 01:03:11,550 --> 01:03:29,530 [Music] 1277 01:03:33,530 --> 01:03:31,610 this is fade to black 1278 01:03:37,220 --> 01:03:33,540 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1279 01:03:39,010 --> 01:03:37,230 radio network and kgr a the global radio 1280 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:39,020 alliance 1281 01:03:45,650 --> 01:03:42,330 this is kera digital broadcasting 1282 01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:45,660 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 1283 01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:48,000 Arkansas does your basement or 1284 01:03:51,830 --> 01:03:50,070 crawlspace have a damp musty smell while 1285 01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:51,840 watch out that's a sign of too much 1286 01:03:55,820 --> 01:03:54,000 moisture and not enough ventilation and 1287 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:55,830 that can mean increased mold growth and 1288 01:03:59,300 --> 01:03:57,570 their build-up of harmful toxins and 1289 01:04:01,640 --> 01:03:59,310 gases don't bother with a dehumidifier 1290 01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:01,650 it just circulates the same unhealthy 1291 01:04:06,050 --> 01:04:03,960 air now there's a better way to remove 1292 01:04:08,420 --> 01:04:06,060 these dangers and odors it's with 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01:07:16,860 black has probably brought to you by 1349 01:07:22,250 --> 01:07:19,500 river moon coffee makers of the fade to 1350 01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:22,260 black blend and we've got the new fade 1351 01:07:28,070 --> 01:07:22,880 to black 1352 01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:28,080 CB dark coming out in about a month so 1353 01:07:32,030 --> 01:07:29,910 get ready for that just head over to the 1354 01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:32,040 River moon coffee banners over a 2 meter 1355 01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:36,480 tornado calm use the promo code f to be 1356 01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:37,950 black fade to black 1357 01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:40,140 it's right there all right Steve I 1358 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:43,950 wanted to ask you this I want to ask you 1359 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:46,530 about CBD have you have you have you 1360 01:07:53,690 --> 01:07:50,250 jumped on the CBD wagon I have tried it 1361 01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:53,700 yeah love it you know you know I do 1362 01:07:59,120 --> 01:07:56,640 karate as you know a lot of times will 1363 01:08:01,790 --> 01:07:59,130 injure a finger or you know sprain 1364 01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:01,800 something or you know bruised ribs the 1365 01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:04,500 CBD helps with inflammation so I really 1366 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:05,400 like it for that reason 1367 01:08:10,730 --> 01:08:07,770 well we've got to know ken we've got it 1368 01:08:18,370 --> 01:08:10,740 we've got fade to black CBD Coffee 1369 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:18,380 coming out seriously yeah yeah man 1370 01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:21,450 scientist you know scientist man you 1371 01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:23,040 know and when they can't you know this 1372 01:08:27,559 --> 01:08:24,480 is you know this is what's really 1373 01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:27,569 fascinating to me when it comes to the 1374 01:08:33,130 --> 01:08:30,420 pot today is not the pot that you and I 1375 01:08:36,349 --> 01:08:33,140 smoked when we went to go see Foghat in 1376 01:08:38,270 --> 01:08:36,359 1977 you know it right yeah this weed 1377 01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:38,280 today is a whole nother thing that's 1378 01:08:46,099 --> 01:08:41,310 going on why mad-scientist 1379 01:08:50,170 --> 01:08:46,109 these guys guys so but anyway up the 1380 01:08:59,300 --> 01:08:50,180 concentration of pH man you know 1381 01:09:01,550 --> 01:08:59,310 altering the DNA in those scenes I you 1382 01:09:04,930 --> 01:09:01,560 know III would suppose that that would 1383 01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:04,940 be GMO weed that's right 1384 01:09:11,809 --> 01:09:07,350 but yeah they've figured out a way to 1385 01:09:14,599 --> 01:09:11,819 infuse fade to black blend with CBD 1386 01:09:17,390 --> 01:09:14,609 and and so you just grind up those beans 1387 01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:17,400 and you get your dose man and I can't 1388 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:19,440 wait I cannot wait for this to come out 1389 01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:22,410 I do CBD every single day Rita you know 1390 01:09:25,820 --> 01:09:23,910 why do you starting up what do you like 1391 01:09:30,170 --> 01:09:25,830 it what do you like about it you know it 1392 01:09:34,340 --> 01:09:30,180 for me it's more about an alignment you 1393 01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:34,350 know it keeps my body correct the immune 1394 01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:36,630 system like your you know inflammation 1395 01:09:43,190 --> 01:09:41,040 is so much of what ails us you know that 1396 01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:43,200 causes all kinds of other things that 1397 01:09:50,809 --> 01:09:47,940 that happen to you and so I I think the 1398 01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:50,819 CBD just keeps me correct you know I do 1399 01:09:55,220 --> 01:09:53,520 a lot of supplements I do I do a lot of 1400 01:10:01,010 --> 01:09:55,230 supplements every single day and I 1401 01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:01,020 didn't use to be so disciplined with it 1402 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:05,280 and so I racked my body you know up and 1403 01:10:12,710 --> 01:10:10,530 down stairs for 4045 years of just 1404 01:10:15,050 --> 01:10:12,720 reckless abandon you know didn't really 1405 01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:15,060 care I thought that life lasts forever 1406 01:10:19,220 --> 01:10:17,820 but I was you know just like everybody 1407 01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,230 else I was getting sick all the time I 1408 01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:21,360 always had issues I had this going wrong 1409 01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:23,880 and this going wrong and for the last 1410 01:10:30,620 --> 01:10:27,510 five years since I've started seriously 1411 01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:30,630 doing supplements every single day it 1412 01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:34,710 corrects I think the damage that I do 1413 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:37,620 throughout the week lack of sleep I work 1414 01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:41,850 too much I eat whatever I want I drink a 1415 01:10:49,610 --> 01:10:46,020 lot of coffee you know I work I'm a 1416 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:49,620 workaholic and but I haven't gotten sick 1417 01:10:55,610 --> 01:10:52,890 you know I haven't got me sick yeah yeah 1418 01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:55,620 so an exercise gym you got to move 1419 01:10:59,630 --> 01:10:58,080 around a little bit yeah it's just so 1420 01:11:02,950 --> 01:10:59,640 the audience know Steve is always gonna 1421 01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:02,960 hey man come hang gliding with me Matt 1422 01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:05,880 it's so close to you you would love it I 1423 01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:09,150 know I know it's right there now okay so 1424 01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,710 let's get back to the discussion on UFOs 1425 01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:14,960 you have 1426 01:11:20,930 --> 01:11:18,060 you've been fully investigating this for 1427 01:11:22,820 --> 01:11:20,940 the last 18 years at every level you've 1428 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:22,830 had the some of the strangest and 1429 01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,239 biggest cases brought to you through 1430 01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:27,600 MUFON through contacts through people 1431 01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:31,920 that have reached out to you how how are 1432 01:11:38,990 --> 01:11:35,400 we today different than we were 18 years 1433 01:11:44,020 --> 01:11:39,000 ago about understanding what UFOs are 1434 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:44,030 because if you stop and think about it 1435 01:11:52,130 --> 01:11:48,570 we've come a long long way from the way 1436 01:11:53,870 --> 01:11:52,140 we perceive things 18 20 years ago to 1437 01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:53,880 our understanding of the universe and 1438 01:12:03,740 --> 01:11:57,360 physics and and other things today how 1439 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:03,750 has it changed for you good question 1440 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:06,690 good question you know originally it was 1441 01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,730 a it was a nuts and bolts thing kind of 1442 01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:10,800 like what Jan horizon's' approach was a 1443 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:13,980 bit originally you know I you know when 1444 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:15,930 I first had my first sighting I realized 1445 01:12:21,650 --> 01:12:19,050 okay well this is a technology we're not 1446 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:21,660 familiar with it's a technology that 1447 01:12:28,370 --> 01:12:25,050 involves zero gravity right the nulling 1448 01:12:29,330 --> 01:12:28,380 of gravity so zero inertia free energy 1449 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:29,340 they're not filling up at the gas 1450 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:32,400 station so those sorts of things but 1451 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:35,570 then as as time has gone on 1452 01:12:45,170 --> 01:12:40,489 consciousness comes into play right and 1453 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:45,180 the ability well okay so let's take just 1454 01:12:49,970 --> 01:12:46,650 some of the phenomenon associated with 1455 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:49,980 ufology with UFOs okay oftentimes when a 1456 01:12:54,979 --> 01:12:52,530 witness has a UFO sighting they get 1457 01:12:57,650 --> 01:12:54,989 downloaded what does that mean downloads 1458 01:13:01,400 --> 01:12:57,660 it sounds hokey well there is a 1459 01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:01,410 communication that goes on or appears to 1460 01:13:08,930 --> 01:13:04,260 go on between the object and the witness 1461 01:13:11,660 --> 01:13:08,940 but often the communication is not the 1462 01:13:13,670 --> 01:13:11,670 witness can't voice I can't put it to 1463 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:13,680 words he knows something but he doesn't 1464 01:13:19,790 --> 01:13:16,290 know what he knows it might come in the 1465 01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:19,800 form of very rapid imagery it might not 1466 01:13:23,209 --> 01:13:21,600 even come in that form at all it may be 1467 01:13:25,220 --> 01:13:23,219 just subliminal but they feel like they 1468 01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:25,230 know something or given some sort of a 1469 01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:28,760 message or messages and that that 1470 01:13:33,819 --> 01:13:32,000 that download will be enough to drive 1471 01:13:35,470 --> 01:13:33,829 somebody to do some pretty crazy things 1472 01:13:38,049 --> 01:13:35,480 like I think I've told you this before 1473 01:13:39,580 --> 01:13:38,059 there was a guy in Scotland who had a 1474 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:39,590 sighting on New Year's Eve when he was 1475 01:13:46,629 --> 01:13:43,489 hammered drunk this triangle came up on 1476 01:13:48,970 --> 01:13:46,639 him and he had this experience and when 1477 01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:48,980 it when it left he was stone-cold sober 1478 01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:50,329 everybody else at the party was still 1479 01:13:55,029 --> 01:13:52,880 drunk and he dropped everything he was 1480 01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:55,039 doing because he was a commercial he 1481 01:13:59,470 --> 01:13:57,199 made commercials for a living production 1482 01:14:00,700 --> 01:13:59,480 guy he dropped in he was doing and 1483 01:14:03,250 --> 01:14:00,710 decided he was going to prove to the 1484 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:03,260 world that UFOs were real and he flew to 1485 01:14:07,660 --> 01:14:05,090 the United States and started shooting 1486 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:07,670 documentary and he came to move on when 1487 01:14:10,839 --> 01:14:09,170 we were MUFON and he interviewed me and 1488 01:14:12,910 --> 01:14:10,849 he came out to Manhattan Beach 1489 01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:12,920 interviewed me here as well and I don't 1490 01:14:20,319 --> 01:14:15,199 know what's happened to him but my point 1491 01:14:23,709 --> 01:14:20,329 is that these episodes can be profound 1492 01:14:26,290 --> 01:14:23,719 have a profound effect on the witness so 1493 01:14:28,899 --> 01:14:26,300 there's a psychic there so there was my 1494 01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:28,909 point there there was a psychic non non 1495 01:14:35,740 --> 01:14:32,230 physical communication going on no words 1496 01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:35,750 you know so there's that psychic there's 1497 01:14:43,209 --> 01:14:38,710 always you know there's always 1498 01:14:45,879 --> 01:14:43,219 telekinesis involved in in in witnesses 1499 01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:45,889 being on craft right they're made to do 1500 01:14:50,649 --> 01:14:48,110 things like a lot of these abductees are 1501 01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:50,659 made to train to move objects with their 1502 01:14:55,629 --> 01:14:53,150 mind you know playing with blocks moving 1503 01:14:58,089 --> 01:14:55,639 around when they're kids they're they're 1504 01:14:59,379 --> 01:14:58,099 encouraged to do that as kids I mean 1505 01:15:01,509 --> 01:14:59,389 there's some strange things that go on 1506 01:15:06,069 --> 01:15:01,519 so what is all that and then when we 1507 01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:06,079 watch a UFO move it I don't it's too bad 1508 01:15:11,049 --> 01:15:08,960 that the phrase you UFO was coined so 1509 01:15:13,390 --> 01:15:11,059 long ago because there's nothing flying 1510 01:15:16,419 --> 01:15:13,400 about these things they don't fly like a 1511 01:15:19,899 --> 01:15:16,429 plane flies excuse me they move through 1512 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:19,909 our space but they move the way I see it 1513 01:15:27,069 --> 01:15:23,650 they translate through our time-space in 1514 01:15:28,750 --> 01:15:27,079 infinitesimal steps and I don't know how 1515 01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:28,760 to you know to be there to me they're 1516 01:15:37,209 --> 01:15:32,320 time travelers these things I remember 1517 01:15:41,529 --> 01:15:37,219 this was a long time ago probably four 1518 01:15:42,430 --> 01:15:41,539 years ago when before I had my sighting 1519 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:42,440 how to 1520 01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:44,530 contact in the desert and you were 1521 01:15:49,660 --> 01:15:47,390 telling me about 1522 01:15:52,990 --> 01:15:49,670 you guys were out doing the sky watch in 1523 01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:53,000 the desert and this light shows up in 1524 01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:55,460 the sky and you guys started to do the 1525 01:16:00,400 --> 01:15:57,770 you know laser communication with it and 1526 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:00,410 it flashed back and then you did it and 1527 01:16:06,970 --> 01:16:04,010 it flashed back at you and that is 1528 01:16:09,790 --> 01:16:06,980 something that I hadn't experienced yet 1529 01:16:12,939 --> 01:16:09,800 and when most people hear about that 1530 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:12,949 they just don't get it right they did 1531 01:16:17,290 --> 01:16:15,530 they just they just think that we're 1532 01:16:20,170 --> 01:16:17,300 seeing things it's just lights in the 1533 01:16:21,970 --> 01:16:20,180 sky it's explainable you go out there 1534 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:21,980 right and you go out there and you 1535 01:16:28,540 --> 01:16:24,890 experience that for the first time it's 1536 01:16:32,590 --> 01:16:28,550 a that adds an epiphany that's it's a 1537 01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:32,600 mind-blower and at the game and you you 1538 01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:37,910 tried to express your Epiphany to me and 1539 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:40,640 I wasn't buying into it right I mean 1540 01:16:47,229 --> 01:16:44,090 well I was I was I was listening to you 1541 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:47,239 right I didn't get it and I know how 1542 01:16:52,270 --> 01:16:50,330 people react when I tell them about you 1543 01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:52,280 know my experiences they think you know 1544 01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:54,800 I just don't think that they're buying 1545 01:17:00,700 --> 01:16:57,920 into what I'm selling that that was a 1546 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:00,710 first time experience for you when you 1547 01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:02,570 had that communication with with that 1548 01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:05,590 sky wash tell the audience about that 1549 01:17:10,959 --> 01:17:08,270 well we had gone out there and I yeah 1550 01:17:15,490 --> 01:17:10,969 what year I'll say it was 2003 Sondra 1551 01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:15,500 Marsh was a experiencer who was part of 1552 01:17:22,780 --> 01:17:18,560 our board at the time you know very very 1553 01:17:25,540 --> 01:17:22,790 psychic very intuitive you know she had 1554 01:17:27,340 --> 01:17:25,550 a lot of interesting gifts and one of 1555 01:17:30,459 --> 01:17:27,350 them was she could pull these things in 1556 01:17:31,870 --> 01:17:30,469 and so she volunteered she you know was 1557 01:17:33,729 --> 01:17:31,880 talking about it one time and I said 1558 01:17:35,890 --> 01:17:33,739 well let's go let's you know put a band 1559 01:17:39,939 --> 01:17:35,900 together and let's go let's go to the 1560 01:17:41,979 --> 01:17:39,949 desert so she agreed and we did so we 1561 01:17:44,530 --> 01:17:41,989 spent the day prepping for this okay we 1562 01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:44,540 got there in the in in the early 1563 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:46,870 afternoon and she brought a bunch of 1564 01:17:52,510 --> 01:17:51,290 spoons and forks silver and the first 1565 01:17:54,729 --> 01:17:52,520 thing she was going to do we were all 1566 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:54,739 going to bend spoons and I'm like okay 1567 01:17:58,359 --> 01:17:56,090 what's going on here this 1568 01:18:01,570 --> 01:17:58,369 is kind of hokey right so she hands me a 1569 01:18:02,919 --> 01:18:01,580 fork and she's she's got us in a circle 1570 01:18:04,750 --> 01:18:02,929 and she's talking and she's telling us 1571 01:18:06,459 --> 01:18:04,760 to rub them and we're I'm rubbing my 1572 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:06,469 fork and I'm looking around going what 1573 01:18:11,050 --> 01:18:09,050 the hell is this you know and then sure 1574 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:11,060 enough I'm looking at my fork and it 1575 01:18:15,729 --> 01:18:14,330 starts to curl and as she's talking and 1576 01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,739 then some of the other people's same 1577 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:17,840 thing and these things got contorted 1578 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:21,530 mine did like a spiral and I thought 1579 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:24,170 okay you know maybe you know I heated 1580 01:18:27,490 --> 01:18:25,520 the middle with my hand you know it 1581 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:27,500 wasn't rub hard but I okay but the heat 1582 01:18:32,109 --> 01:18:29,090 from my hand you know your mind is 1583 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:32,119 making up these excuses right and you 1584 01:18:36,189 --> 01:18:34,250 know I just so that kind of put us in 1585 01:18:38,140 --> 01:18:36,199 the right frame of mind in other words 1586 01:18:40,990 --> 01:18:38,150 it kind of shifted us a little bit right 1587 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:41,000 then comes nightfall and we go out to 1588 01:18:45,580 --> 01:18:42,770 this mound where we're all going to do 1589 01:18:47,140 --> 01:18:45,590 the sky watch and we start when it got 1590 01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:47,150 it got dark we're up there we got our 1591 01:18:49,870 --> 01:18:48,440 lawn chairs out people have their 1592 01:18:51,490 --> 01:18:49,880 blankets on them so they don't get too 1593 01:18:54,010 --> 01:18:51,500 cold and we're all just staring up the 1594 01:18:56,919 --> 01:18:54,020 sconce standing the whole time hours go 1595 01:18:58,839 --> 01:18:56,929 by and while we're while we're standing 1596 01:19:00,609 --> 01:18:58,849 as the hours go by she keeps saying 1597 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:00,619 they're right there and she's pointed a 1598 01:19:03,339 --> 01:19:02,090 certain spot in the sky they're right 1599 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:03,349 there they're watching us they know 1600 01:19:08,770 --> 01:19:05,690 we're here and she's going on and on and 1601 01:19:12,850 --> 01:19:08,780 on and I'm looking up there I just see a 1602 01:19:14,830 --> 01:19:12,860 few stars you know no big deal and so 1603 01:19:17,050 --> 01:19:14,840 sure enough at around 2:30 3:00 o'clock 1604 01:19:19,620 --> 01:19:17,060 the guy next I mean who's also standing 1605 01:19:22,060 --> 01:19:19,630 up goes whoa it just flashed me I go why 1606 01:19:24,189 --> 01:19:22,070 he goes out that that star right there 1607 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:24,199 just flashed me and he had it wasn't a 1608 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:26,090 laser he had one of those little LED 1609 01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:28,010 lights from our yacht you know the ones 1610 01:19:33,339 --> 01:19:31,280 that you can light your key you're out 1611 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:33,349 her bright you know it wasn't bright it 1612 01:19:39,250 --> 01:19:35,210 was just a little white LED light right 1613 01:19:41,859 --> 01:19:39,260 and so he just flashed me I go flash it 1614 01:19:43,810 --> 01:19:41,869 back so he gives it to boom boom and 1615 01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:43,820 this sure enough I'm looking up at this 1616 01:19:49,649 --> 01:19:46,670 star and the star goes one two flashes 1617 01:19:52,510 --> 01:19:49,659 on and off twice and now I'm like what 1618 01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:52,520 give it three so the guy gives it three 1619 01:19:56,260 --> 01:19:54,080 and now everybody's getting excited 1620 01:19:58,540 --> 01:19:56,270 around us and because I'm getting loud 1621 01:20:00,760 --> 01:19:58,550 and he gives it three it gives us three 1622 01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:00,770 back and now everybody just starts you 1623 01:20:03,790 --> 01:20:02,510 know nosing this thing there were 20 1624 01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:03,800 people up on that mount and they're all 1625 01:20:08,589 --> 01:20:06,020 we're all screaming and and as we're 1626 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:08,599 getting excited this thing got very very 1627 01:20:12,250 --> 01:20:09,920 bright as 1628 01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:12,260 almost almost as if it was coming down 1629 01:20:15,129 --> 01:20:14,000 and getting closer to us but I don't 1630 01:20:16,540 --> 01:20:15,139 think that's what was happening I think 1631 01:20:18,910 --> 01:20:16,550 what it was doing was just getting were 1632 01:20:21,609 --> 01:20:18,920 super bright like oak like but like the 1633 01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:21,619 the iris of an eye just opening up with 1634 01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:24,710 super bright white light and everybody's 1635 01:20:27,790 --> 01:20:26,030 screaming and some people were like 1636 01:20:30,250 --> 01:20:27,800 getting scared other people are saying 1637 01:20:34,689 --> 01:20:30,260 come get us you know and making crazy 1638 01:20:36,250 --> 01:20:34,699 comments and then as soon as one of the 1639 01:20:38,050 --> 01:20:36,260 there was a girl next to me I can hear 1640 01:20:39,490 --> 01:20:38,060 her kind of what crime not crying but 1641 01:20:41,830 --> 01:20:39,500 kind of like oh no you know she was 1642 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:41,840 getting scared and and as soon as that 1643 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:43,730 happened the thing went shoot back down 1644 01:20:48,879 --> 01:20:46,130 to a little Biddy light like a star and 1645 01:20:50,979 --> 01:20:48,889 it's then it just moves across the sky I 1646 01:20:53,620 --> 01:20:50,989 mean like maybe moves across half the 1647 01:20:56,109 --> 01:20:53,630 sky and joins up to these other two 1648 01:20:57,780 --> 01:20:56,119 stars and they form this perfect 1649 01:21:00,280 --> 01:20:57,790 triangle and I saw you know a 1650 01:21:02,530 --> 01:21:00,290 equilateral triangle and they're all 1651 01:21:04,990 --> 01:21:02,540 there now you've got this geometric 1652 01:21:08,109 --> 01:21:05,000 shape in the sky of a triangle and then 1653 01:21:11,140 --> 01:21:08,119 the three lights rotate about the axis 1654 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:11,150 they start to turn and everybody I'm 1655 01:21:15,970 --> 01:21:12,650 just dumbfounded at this point I'm just 1656 01:21:19,450 --> 01:21:15,980 like what right and you know I'm just 1657 01:21:21,340 --> 01:21:19,460 you know unbelievable and then they just 1658 01:21:22,689 --> 01:21:21,350 sort of sort of as if like they're 1659 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:22,699 getting squeezed together and getting 1660 01:21:25,540 --> 01:21:24,290 dimmer and dimmer and dimmer so they're 1661 01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:25,550 coming together and dimmer and dimmer 1662 01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:26,830 and dimmer and then they're just 1663 01:21:33,310 --> 01:21:31,369 disappear into the black and I couldn't 1664 01:21:35,649 --> 01:21:33,320 you know nobody could believe it and we 1665 01:21:38,050 --> 01:21:35,659 do it I you know I was I was like did 1666 01:21:39,580 --> 01:21:38,060 that just happen and everybody's just 1667 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:39,590 looking around and we stood there for 1668 01:21:43,450 --> 01:21:41,810 another hour or two hoping something 1669 01:21:47,109 --> 01:21:43,460 else would happen nothing else happened 1670 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:47,119 for that night and now here's the funny 1671 01:21:53,740 --> 01:21:50,570 thing there were two guys who one was my 1672 01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:53,750 predecessor Mark Hunziker who's just 1673 01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:55,190 recently passed away God rest his soul 1674 01:22:01,209 --> 01:21:58,730 he passed away maybe three weeks ago but 1675 01:22:03,790 --> 01:22:01,219 mark was the guy that I replaced he held 1676 01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:03,800 the post for I think six weeks something 1677 01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:06,560 like that anyway he was there and his 1678 01:22:10,330 --> 01:22:08,480 buddy Bruce Austin was there now Bruce 1679 01:22:15,939 --> 01:22:10,340 these guys were both board members of 1680 01:22:19,180 --> 01:22:15,949 MUFON and Bruce was Air Force 1681 01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:19,190 intelligence and then was a contractor 1682 01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:21,980 and El Segundo that worked for uh let's 1683 01:22:25,629 --> 01:22:23,360 call it a think-tank 1684 01:22:27,939 --> 01:22:25,639 all right when he came our meetings he 1685 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:27,949 was never really interested in listening 1686 01:22:32,260 --> 01:22:29,449 to the speaker never really interested 1687 01:22:33,820 --> 01:22:32,270 in anything going on with the meeting he 1688 01:22:35,410 --> 01:22:33,830 just sort of like sat there and messed 1689 01:22:36,700 --> 01:22:35,420 with his phone and and wasn't really 1690 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:36,710 paying attention anything he didn't seem 1691 01:22:40,750 --> 01:22:38,570 interested in the sub he was well he's a 1692 01:22:42,970 --> 01:22:40,760 laughable guy he was a nice guy but he 1693 01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:42,980 he just didn't seem into the subject at 1694 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:45,710 all and then there was Mark who they 1695 01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:48,110 were close and Mark you know Mark was 1696 01:22:52,540 --> 01:22:50,270 just into partying and you know whatever 1697 01:22:56,530 --> 01:22:52,550 and those two guys were on the mound 1698 01:22:57,850 --> 01:22:56,540 with us but they left you know allegedly 1699 01:22:59,620 --> 01:22:57,860 they were there to have you know do this 1700 01:23:02,050 --> 01:22:59,630 thing but they left before all the 1701 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:02,060 fireworks started right so they went 1702 01:23:06,580 --> 01:23:03,770 into their tent went to sleep and they 1703 01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:06,590 missed a huge event in my mind a huge 1704 01:23:11,620 --> 01:23:10,310 event so were they made to leave I don't 1705 01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:11,630 think I don't know I don't know that 1706 01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:14,480 often happens in ufology one person or a 1707 01:23:19,270 --> 01:23:16,130 group of people are made to leave or 1708 01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:19,280 turn the other way or you know like my 1709 01:23:22,180 --> 01:23:20,510 wife when I had my sighting 1710 01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:22,190 oh she forgot her wine and she had to go 1711 01:23:27,580 --> 01:23:23,600 downstairs to get her glass of wine she 1712 01:23:30,939 --> 01:23:27,590 didn't have the SIA tea so just a lot of 1713 01:23:33,090 --> 01:23:30,949 weird you know kind of cliches in the 1714 01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:33,100 ufology world happened that night and 1715 01:23:39,820 --> 01:23:36,800 but it was a phenomenal sighting it it 1716 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:39,830 convinced me that there are some people 1717 01:23:44,290 --> 01:23:42,290 who are who can call in this phenomena I 1718 01:23:45,729 --> 01:23:44,300 call now I refer them into my mind I 1719 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:45,739 call them strange attractors you know 1720 01:23:51,850 --> 01:23:49,010 from the physics theory but well one of 1721 01:23:54,820 --> 01:23:51,860 my one of my favorite stories to tell 1722 01:23:57,879 --> 01:23:54,830 and since you're with me I'm sure we've 1723 01:24:01,840 --> 01:23:57,889 done it on the air before but it's just 1724 01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:01,850 a great story because we you and I and 1725 01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:05,840 Alex and and some fader knots four or 1726 01:24:12,459 --> 01:24:07,760 five years ago a contact in the desert 1727 01:24:15,580 --> 01:24:12,469 man if we didn't summon that thing on 1728 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:15,590 our patio that night I don't know what 1729 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:17,330 you would call summoning because that's 1730 01:24:22,930 --> 01:24:20,690 exactly what happened and and almost 1731 01:24:24,669 --> 01:24:22,940 almost called it out you called it out 1732 01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:24,679 and called it out so we're standing 1733 01:24:28,510 --> 01:24:27,920 there there's probably ten of us out on 1734 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:28,520 the patio 1735 01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:31,610 Reid and I rented this little cabin 1736 01:24:36,370 --> 01:24:34,190 literally in the middle of the desert 1737 01:24:38,140 --> 01:24:36,380 and 1738 01:24:41,860 --> 01:24:38,150 so we're out on the patio I don't know 1739 01:24:42,490 --> 01:24:41,870 it's probably midnight and it's you 1740 01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:42,500 myself 1741 01:24:48,340 --> 01:24:46,310 Alex Mastretta Rick Senate was out there 1742 01:24:52,300 --> 01:24:48,350 space boy was out there 1743 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:52,310 Walter was out there and then who was 1744 01:25:01,480 --> 01:24:57,650 your friend that looked like Kenny G I 1745 01:25:07,810 --> 01:25:01,490 can't remember he can't you brought only 1746 01:25:10,330 --> 01:25:07,820 threw me off your Frank yeah he looked 1747 01:25:15,190 --> 01:25:10,340 by Kenny G with the long hair the young 1748 01:25:22,780 --> 01:25:15,200 guy he rode with you in the car we went 1749 01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:22,790 and picked up the pizzas together okay 1750 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:25,520 but Kenny G so Kenny G's there we got 1751 01:25:32,050 --> 01:25:28,850 Kenny G yeah and we're out of that we're 1752 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:32,060 out on the patio and somebody says we'd 1753 01:25:40,420 --> 01:25:34,490 be cool man if the UFO G showed up right 1754 01:25:44,590 --> 01:25:40,430 now and like at that moment somebody 1755 01:25:47,850 --> 01:25:44,600 says whoa and we all turn and look and 1756 01:25:50,860 --> 01:25:47,860 this thing shot up from the desert floor 1757 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:50,870 I would the the best way that I can 1758 01:25:57,070 --> 01:25:53,410 describe it Steve was it was a white 1759 01:25:59,050 --> 01:25:57,080 glowing ball and it just shots straight 1760 01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:59,060 up from the desert floor and went up to 1761 01:26:04,270 --> 01:26:02,000 the stars and lasted well I mean now 1762 01:26:07,870 --> 01:26:04,280 that's what I remember how would you 1763 01:26:09,460 --> 01:26:07,880 describe it yeah like a like a shooting 1764 01:26:11,890 --> 01:26:09,470 star in the opposite direction but it 1765 01:26:14,620 --> 01:26:11,900 wasn't it wasn't it no arc it went 1766 01:26:18,490 --> 01:26:14,630 straight up straight up at a high rate 1767 01:26:19,620 --> 01:26:18,500 of speed and that you know here's what's 1768 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:19,630 cool about that 1769 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:22,850 that's contact in the desert kind of in 1770 01:26:29,470 --> 01:26:24,890 a nutshell I mean the name says it all 1771 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:29,480 last time we were there last year there 1772 01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:31,130 were a bunch of people with these night 1773 01:26:35,380 --> 01:26:32,480 vision goggles out the height and you 1774 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:35,390 know the newer versions mm-hm what's the 1775 01:26:39,010 --> 01:26:37,250 latest version is like generations like 1776 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:39,020 I think third generation report Jeff 1777 01:26:43,570 --> 01:26:42,410 yeah yeah Jen 310 310 3 yes all these 1778 01:26:45,730 --> 01:26:43,580 people had them I couldn't believe how 1779 01:26:48,940 --> 01:26:45,740 many people had these expensive goggles 1780 01:26:50,350 --> 01:26:48,950 on their head and you know you were 1781 01:26:51,609 --> 01:26:50,360 doing your show this is I think 1782 01:26:54,669 --> 01:26:51,619 Friday night right when you have all the 1783 01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:54,679 different speakers coming and talk and 1784 01:26:59,740 --> 01:26:56,239 just say hello right to your audience 1785 01:27:01,180 --> 01:26:59,750 mm-hmm and they were doing a night 1786 01:27:02,379 --> 01:27:01,190 vision out there in the park just in the 1787 01:27:04,530 --> 01:27:02,389 parking lot you know what I mean right 1788 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:04,540 over right over near where you were and 1789 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:06,530 somebody calls goes hey man you want to 1790 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:08,090 see some UFOs are doing it right now I'm 1791 01:27:12,580 --> 01:27:10,250 like what yeah they're like they've seen 1792 01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:12,590 a bunch I'm like get out of here okay 1793 01:27:15,490 --> 01:27:13,580 yeah sure Elko 1794 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:15,500 so I go out there and there are these 1795 01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:18,170 people standing around their car and I 1796 01:27:20,740 --> 01:27:19,280 go how many of you guys seen I'm 1797 01:27:24,570 --> 01:27:20,750 thinking I'm gonna say five you know 1798 01:27:28,030 --> 01:27:24,580 three the guy goes we're up to 84 1799 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:28,040 laughing yeah right whatever man give me 1800 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:30,050 the glasses so they hand me the glasses 1801 01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:32,690 then they have the laser thing and one 1802 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:33,920 guy's already looking he goes there's 1803 01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:36,050 one and I'm like and he's pointing with 1804 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:37,520 the laser so it's really easy to pick it 1805 01:27:40,689 --> 01:27:38,690 up with yours right you can see where 1806 01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:40,699 he's pointing I look and sure enough man 1807 01:27:45,850 --> 01:27:41,600 flying Dorito 1808 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:45,860 with the little lights on it and it's 1809 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:47,330 just moving across the sky like nobody's 1810 01:27:52,570 --> 01:27:50,810 business I'm like okay what and then you 1811 01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:52,580 know minutes later there's another one 1812 01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:54,590 and they were just like everywhere it 1813 01:27:58,810 --> 01:27:56,030 was like freaking it was like Grand 1814 01:28:00,700 --> 01:27:58,820 Central Station for ufology I couldn't 1815 01:28:02,169 --> 01:28:00,710 believe it these guys and then they were 1816 01:28:03,790 --> 01:28:02,179 just like putting little hash marks on 1817 01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:03,800 their little piece of paper count them 1818 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:08,030 it was crazy man I don't know and now 1819 01:28:17,379 --> 01:28:13,850 the okay I'm the opposite of the ce-5 1820 01:28:19,419 --> 01:28:17,389 protocol okay that may work for Greer 1821 01:28:21,729 --> 01:28:19,429 and and his group that's that's fine 1822 01:28:25,020 --> 01:28:21,739 whatever works for you is fine right I 1823 01:28:28,859 --> 01:28:25,030 believe in the opposite of that no 1824 01:28:33,729 --> 01:28:28,869 meditation let's have a quiet moment 1825 01:28:35,919 --> 01:28:33,739 screwed no man screw that let's let's 1826 01:28:38,740 --> 01:28:35,929 let you know let's get loud let's have 1827 01:28:41,709 --> 01:28:38,750 some fun let's laugh let's enjoy the 1828 01:28:44,859 --> 01:28:41,719 moment because every time that I step 1829 01:28:47,649 --> 01:28:44,869 into one of those groups I want the 1830 01:28:50,859 --> 01:28:47,659 electricity elevated I want everybody 1831 01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:50,869 open and hollering and and we have had 1832 01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:55,040 the most amazing things go down and I've 1833 01:29:02,000 --> 01:28:57,290 had people come up to me you can't be 1834 01:29:05,660 --> 01:29:02,010 like that no I can and I am 1835 01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:05,670 and you will yes yes you can you know 1836 01:29:09,859 --> 01:29:07,710 yeah like you said whatever works for 1837 01:29:12,859 --> 01:29:09,869 you if you have a protocol and that 1838 01:29:14,330 --> 01:29:12,869 works and then do that you know but 1839 01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:14,340 wouldn't it be nicer if you could just 1840 01:29:19,220 --> 01:29:16,800 relax and and be yourself and show up 1841 01:29:21,109 --> 01:29:19,230 and go Oh have have contact have 1842 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:21,119 communication have an experience right 1843 01:29:23,839 --> 01:29:22,530 and that's what happens out there that's 1844 01:29:25,279 --> 01:29:23,849 what's happening out there so I hope 1845 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:25,289 some of your listeners gonna join us 1846 01:29:29,330 --> 01:29:27,570 this is gonna be a I can't wait madness 1847 01:29:32,839 --> 01:29:29,340 this weekend's gonna be spectacular I 1848 01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:32,849 know it is unbelievable that we are just 1849 01:29:39,379 --> 01:29:36,480 a few days away from Palm Springs I 1850 01:29:41,569 --> 01:29:39,389 cannot wait I just cannot wait it's 1851 01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:41,579 going to be so much fun let's take a 1852 01:29:47,299 --> 01:29:43,920 break right here I want to stay on this 1853 01:29:50,959 --> 01:29:47,309 conversation though because the way that 1854 01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:50,969 I feel is that when somebody and I want 1855 01:29:54,649 --> 01:29:52,320 you I want you to think about this 1856 01:29:58,609 --> 01:29:54,659 during the break when somebody says to 1857 01:30:01,069 --> 01:29:58,619 you man what do we know today that we 1858 01:30:04,729 --> 01:30:01,079 don't already know when it comes to UFOs 1859 01:30:07,459 --> 01:30:04,739 we don't know nothing nothing is changed 1860 01:30:09,589 --> 01:30:07,469 ain't anything different now okay 1861 01:30:12,649 --> 01:30:09,599 so Steve think about that get a little 1862 01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:12,659 angry and I want your response when you 1863 01:30:18,140 --> 01:30:15,840 come back because when I hear that my 1864 01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:18,150 blood gets a little bit warm I'm not 1865 01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:20,940 cool with that because somebody is not 1866 01:30:27,740 --> 01:30:25,289 taking this serious you know I think 1867 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:27,750 they're they're trolling me when they 1868 01:30:32,689 --> 01:30:29,010 see say things like that 1869 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:32,699 we'll be right probably oh right oh yes 1870 01:30:38,490 --> 01:30:49,030 [Music] 1871 01:30:56,270 --> 01:30:52,209 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1872 01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:56,280 you're listening to fade to black always 1873 01:31:01,400 --> 01:30:58,560 on the edge of the hottest alternative 1874 01:31:20,660 --> 01:31:01,410 talk jimmy church with fade to black 1875 01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:20,670 stay gra radio.com hurricanes 1876 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:24,390 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 1877 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:26,130 experienced more than our fair share 1878 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:28,530 this is Jimmy Church of fade to black 1879 01:31:33,590 --> 01:31:31,410 and last month I decided to make sure my 1880 01:31:36,260 --> 01:31:33,600 family does not have to worry about food 1881 01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:36,270 should we get caught in a real emergency 1882 01:31:41,390 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01:35:12,510 you know we haven't learned anything 1952 01:35:18,180 --> 01:35:15,070 there's nothing new today 1953 01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:18,190 nothing has changed ever when it comes 1954 01:35:22,620 --> 01:35:21,250 to UFOs how do you react to that yeah I 1955 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:22,630 see what you're saying you get a little 1956 01:35:27,930 --> 01:35:24,610 angry it's it's it's true that we've 1957 01:35:30,990 --> 01:35:27,940 come a long way and well let's just take 1958 01:35:34,020 --> 01:35:31,000 soft disclosure for example okay that 1959 01:35:36,420 --> 01:35:34,030 came out in December so for for one the 1960 01:35:38,940 --> 01:35:36,430 Pentagon admits hey these things exist 1961 01:35:40,260 --> 01:35:38,950 we've been studying I'm okay so now we 1962 01:35:41,910 --> 01:35:40,270 have a soft disclosure we've been 1963 01:35:44,070 --> 01:35:41,920 studying something don't know what it is 1964 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:44,080 whatever this thing is we're studying 1965 01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:46,810 have can do things that our aviation is 1966 01:35:51,810 --> 01:35:49,450 not capable of doing velocities turning 1967 01:35:55,290 --> 01:35:51,820 capabilities a far exceed what we have 1968 01:35:58,020 --> 01:35:55,300 in present you know technology they can 1969 01:36:01,320 --> 01:35:58,030 cloak right they have the ability to go 1970 01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:01,330 invisible but not to our Fleur you know 1971 01:36:06,229 --> 01:36:03,310 forward-looking infra-red can see these 1972 01:36:09,420 --> 01:36:06,239 things you know I was thinking about it 1973 01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:09,430 you know that's what the the tic-tac UFO 1974 01:36:15,570 --> 01:36:12,640 was visible on floor but not visible to 1975 01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:15,580 the naked eye for a while right that 1976 01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:17,560 also happened in the competin Siddhant 1977 01:36:22,830 --> 01:36:21,310 back in I think it was oh six when I met 1978 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:22,840 the Mexican Air Force was out there 1979 01:36:28,140 --> 01:36:25,690 looking for drug runners crying across 1980 01:36:29,729 --> 01:36:28,150 the California border and they came 1981 01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:29,739 across some things that appeared on 1982 01:36:32,850 --> 01:36:31,360 their floor and followed him around for 1983 01:36:34,380 --> 01:36:32,860 a while so it's not the first time that 1984 01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:34,390 but when yeah when they looked outside 1985 01:36:37,470 --> 01:36:35,920 they couldn't see him but they could see 1986 01:36:38,820 --> 01:36:37,480 him on their floor right so it's not the 1987 01:36:40,860 --> 01:36:38,830 first time 1988 01:36:42,959 --> 01:36:40,870 hey that the Pentagon is funding this 1989 01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:42,969 thing right Harry Reid got the the 1990 01:36:48,180 --> 01:36:45,280 financing what was it 20 million 1991 01:36:50,910 --> 01:36:48,190 for five years was it yeah yeah 22 1992 01:36:52,740 --> 01:36:50,920 million 20 million for five years which 1993 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:52,750 is a pittance right that's that's like a 1994 01:36:59,390 --> 01:36:55,570 spit but it's sort of an admission that 1995 01:37:03,720 --> 01:36:59,400 yes some money has been going towards us 1996 01:37:05,820 --> 01:37:03,730 so those minor admissions will lead to 1997 01:37:07,290 --> 01:37:05,830 you know sort of open the door 1998 01:37:10,110 --> 01:37:07,300 you know they cracked the door for us 1999 01:37:11,550 --> 01:37:10,120 and they'll lead to larger disclosures 2000 01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:11,560 down the road but I think it's sort of a 2001 01:37:16,050 --> 01:37:14,080 testing of the waters sort of like with 2002 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:16,060 UFOs do they sort of mess with your 2003 01:37:21,690 --> 01:37:18,490 perception they give you a little bit at 2004 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:21,700 a time so that not always sometimes they 2005 01:37:25,500 --> 01:37:22,930 just give it to you all at once and you 2006 01:37:27,330 --> 01:37:25,510 lose it right but I think it's kind of a 2007 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:27,340 kind of a cat-and-mouse with the 2008 01:37:31,890 --> 01:37:30,490 conscious consciousness and I think sort 2009 01:37:33,090 --> 01:37:31,900 of that's what the that's what the 2010 01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:33,100 government's doing or that's what 2011 01:37:36,180 --> 01:37:34,540 whoever's controlling this information 2012 01:37:39,210 --> 01:37:36,190 is doing but I think this is going to 2013 01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:39,220 lead to larger disclosures for example 2014 01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,790 you know Katherine Austin Fitz former 2015 01:37:46,650 --> 01:37:44,800 HUD accountant you know she was she was 2016 01:37:47,130 --> 01:37:46,660 right there knew where all the money was 2017 01:37:52,110 --> 01:37:47,140 going 2018 01:37:53,820 --> 01:37:52,120 she thinks that 21 trillion dollars now 2019 01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:53,830 I just listened to an interview with her 2020 01:38:00,600 --> 01:37:56,560 21 trillion dollars has been has gone 2021 01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:00,610 missing trillion not billion 21 trillion 2022 01:38:04,740 --> 01:38:03,280 and that's just what she and her 2023 01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:04,750 associates have been able to identify 2024 01:38:11,070 --> 01:38:08,710 you know she has only so much manpower 2025 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:11,080 work force to put it this thing but 21 2026 01:38:16,380 --> 01:38:13,810 trillion that could finance a secret 2027 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:16,390 space program that could put people on 2028 01:38:21,630 --> 01:38:18,250 other planets that we don't know about 2029 01:38:23,730 --> 01:38:21,640 so small disclosure leading to larger 2030 01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:23,740 disclosures down the road so what we 2031 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:25,330 learned about UFOs that we didn't know 2032 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:26,890 before we know they exist 2033 01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:29,050 we know they have propulsion systems 2034 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:32,350 that I bet you we already have in our 2035 01:38:36,660 --> 01:38:34,570 own inventory our own techno we've 2036 01:38:38,010 --> 01:38:36,670 harnessed that technology it's just not 2037 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:38,020 being given to the public which i think 2038 01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:42,370 is literally criminal so it's so the 2039 01:38:46,260 --> 01:38:44,200 larger population of the planets being 2040 01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:46,270 kept as slaves basically to this 2041 01:38:53,850 --> 01:38:50,490 information you agree yeah well it's the 2042 01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:53,860 the original and we all had to think 2043 01:38:58,830 --> 01:38:56,110 like this because we're trying to figure 2044 01:39:02,300 --> 01:38:58,840 this out but the original thoughts 2045 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:02,310 theories were about these spacecraft 2046 01:39:10,379 --> 01:39:06,730 coming across the galaxy from a distant 2047 01:39:13,500 --> 01:39:10,389 star system to here in a traditional 2048 01:39:14,459 --> 01:39:13,510 sense right a motor you know somebody at 2049 01:39:17,370 --> 01:39:14,469 a steering wheel 2050 01:39:19,229 --> 01:39:17,380 I had a joystick and it's very tooling 2051 01:39:20,879 --> 01:39:19,239 across the universe until they find 2052 01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:20,889 planet Earth 2053 01:39:27,419 --> 01:39:24,000 clearly that wouldn't be the case I 2054 01:39:30,899 --> 01:39:27,429 bring up a couple of things when we talk 2055 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:30,909 about the insides of these spacecraft 2056 01:39:35,850 --> 01:39:34,210 and there has been enough witnesses out 2057 01:39:39,899 --> 01:39:35,860 there describing what they have seen 2058 01:39:42,089 --> 01:39:39,909 what I often ask about were their 2059 01:39:44,700 --> 01:39:42,099 bedrooms right how are they sleeping 2060 01:39:48,810 --> 01:39:44,710 where were they eating if you're gonna 2061 01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:48,820 spend ten thousand years in a little 2062 01:39:55,620 --> 01:39:52,560 flying saucer in a little tiny room 2063 01:39:58,680 --> 01:39:55,630 there's got to be other thing and now so 2064 01:40:00,959 --> 01:39:58,690 if that is indeed the case then it's not 2065 01:40:04,140 --> 01:40:00,969 that they were traveling for ten 2066 01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:04,150 thousand years at close to the speed of 2067 01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:07,810 light in these craft the they got here 2068 01:40:14,189 --> 01:40:11,440 easier it's a walk in the park for them 2069 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:14,199 so we have to look at it that way they 2070 01:40:21,810 --> 01:40:18,730 it's it's much it's it's simple it's 2071 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:21,820 easy for them to do and the Astra's and 2072 01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:23,770 light travel and therefore that's why I 2073 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:25,780 think their time time travelers these 2074 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:29,530 things there and if if multi dimensions 2075 01:40:35,070 --> 01:40:30,730 exist and I think they're 2076 01:40:37,649 --> 01:40:35,080 multi-dimensional the is there now when 2077 01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:37,659 you say time travelers are these time 2078 01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:40,449 travelers et or are these time travelers 2079 01:40:45,709 --> 01:40:43,360 us you know the whole thing about it's 2080 01:40:48,810 --> 01:40:45,719 us coming back to help ourselves well I 2081 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:48,820 you know that's possible of course but I 2082 01:40:54,300 --> 01:40:51,130 think it's a little bit egocentric to 2083 01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:54,310 think that it's just us it excludes the 2084 01:40:57,689 --> 01:40:56,110 possibility that there's just these 2085 01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:57,699 these other beings out there they could 2086 01:41:02,520 --> 01:40:59,679 possibly be you know lightyears ahead of 2087 01:41:03,209 --> 01:41:02,530 us in terms of Technology you know what 2088 01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:03,219 I mean 2089 01:41:09,330 --> 01:41:06,730 it Sally Oh yet you know well let's look 2090 01:41:12,209 --> 01:41:09,340 at Rendlesham you know that's the story 2091 01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:12,219 right that that craft was us from the 2092 01:41:14,580 --> 01:41:12,489 few 2093 01:41:17,489 --> 01:41:14,590 you're coming back to help us and or to 2094 01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:17,499 help them and I don't know man do you 2095 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:21,670 buy that it's a it's it's a it's a 2096 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:25,090 possibility what I would think is that 2097 01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:28,090 if a time traveler came from you know of 2098 01:41:32,850 --> 01:41:30,249 us if we came back to visit us from 2099 01:41:36,899 --> 01:41:32,860 10,000 years in the future we wouldn't 2100 01:41:38,959 --> 01:41:36,909 even recognize what humans are right I'm 2101 01:41:42,089 --> 01:41:38,969 not even sure if we would have bodies 2102 01:41:43,709 --> 01:41:42,099 yeah you know you know what I mean so I 2103 01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:43,719 I don't know I don't know if we could 2104 01:41:49,770 --> 01:41:46,690 communicate or relate if you don't have 2105 01:41:52,919 --> 01:41:49,780 all her hair what Steve if you went back 2106 01:41:55,410 --> 01:41:52,929 if you went back 150 years and you went 2107 01:41:58,169 --> 01:41:55,420 back to the oeid West but you were 2108 01:42:01,580 --> 01:41:58,179 yourself right Steve Marilla today and 2109 01:42:04,770 --> 01:42:01,590 you went back how would you communicate 2110 01:42:07,649 --> 01:42:04,780 you you know you wouldn't be a but they 2111 01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:07,659 wouldn't you guys wouldn't it would be a 2112 01:42:13,410 --> 01:42:10,690 total Dyke down there will be something 2113 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:13,420 lost in the translation there you know 2114 01:42:19,410 --> 01:42:16,210 now let's talk about a 10,000 year you 2115 01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:19,420 know time travel visit I'm not so sure 2116 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:22,719 that we would even recognize or be able 2117 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:25,449 to relate to now going back to 2118 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:27,610 Rendlesham and also to this recent 2119 01:42:33,799 --> 01:42:31,570 Pentagon budding up that they seem to 2120 01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:33,809 you know be doing with the UFO community 2121 01:42:39,839 --> 01:42:37,900 you were in the Marines you know you 2122 01:42:44,250 --> 01:42:39,849 were fighter pilot you graduated from 2123 01:42:47,669 --> 01:42:44,260 the the Nate the u.s. Naval Academy but 2124 01:42:51,239 --> 01:42:47,679 you're also a ufologist and you ran you 2125 01:42:53,310 --> 01:42:51,249 know MUFON LA for 13 years do you trust 2126 01:42:57,020 --> 01:42:53,320 the Pentagon when they're coming forward 2127 01:43:00,180 --> 01:42:57,030 with UFO stuff right now of course not 2128 01:43:03,390 --> 01:43:00,190 not at all listen they've been studying 2129 01:43:05,939 --> 01:43:03,400 this phenomenon well here's what I think 2130 01:43:07,589 --> 01:43:05,949 okay so I think you know Roswell 2131 01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:07,599 happened we got a hold of that 2132 01:43:13,890 --> 01:43:10,510 technology it was sequestered you know 2133 01:43:17,310 --> 01:43:13,900 working groups formed around it and then 2134 01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:17,320 the intelligence community sort of you 2135 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:21,760 know isolated that subject so so well 2136 01:43:26,420 --> 01:43:25,090 that not even port like hire higher-ups 2137 01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,430 in the intelligence community 2138 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:28,800 about it and that went on and created 2139 01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:31,410 the secret space program or breakaway 2140 01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:35,040 civilization as we like to talk about it 2141 01:43:42,410 --> 01:43:39,570 meanwhile the normal day-to-day military 2142 01:43:45,500 --> 01:43:42,420 is handling this information as well but 2143 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:45,510 doesn't have the confirmation of Roswell 2144 01:43:49,940 --> 01:43:47,370 doesn't know that it actually happens so 2145 01:43:51,410 --> 01:43:49,950 they're still treating it seriously 2146 01:43:53,570 --> 01:43:51,420 because it's not something they 2147 01:43:55,070 --> 01:43:53,580 understand and they continue to you know 2148 01:43:56,690 --> 01:43:55,080 first they give you you know Project 2149 01:43:59,480 --> 01:43:56,700 Blue Book which of course is should have 2150 01:44:01,340 --> 01:43:59,490 been called Project snow job but you 2151 01:44:03,650 --> 01:44:01,350 know this is PR move and they kept that 2152 01:44:05,870 --> 01:44:03,660 going and then project blue Blue Book is 2153 01:44:08,420 --> 01:44:05,880 closed right never happen you know it's 2154 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:08,430 solved there there are no UFOs but of 2155 01:44:13,550 --> 01:44:11,250 course you fault UFOs continue to 2156 01:44:15,410 --> 01:44:13,560 penetrate our skies on a daily basis and 2157 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:15,420 they're dealing with that right how do 2158 01:44:19,730 --> 01:44:16,650 they deal with it you know 2159 01:44:22,970 --> 01:44:19,740 disinformation ridicule the whole nine 2160 01:44:25,670 --> 01:44:22,980 yards the whole CIA my job that they've 2161 01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:25,680 been perpetrating on the public for all 2162 01:44:33,620 --> 01:44:29,520 these years since the early 50s so what 2163 01:44:37,970 --> 01:44:33,630 we why would why would we be expected to 2164 01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:37,980 to trust the Pentagon today like we 2165 01:44:42,110 --> 01:44:40,110 should you know definitely I loved 2166 01:44:44,450 --> 01:44:42,120 elizondo's cover story he's that 2167 01:44:48,890 --> 01:44:44,460 disgruntled employee and that's why he's 2168 01:44:52,430 --> 01:44:48,900 coming out of blah blah blah I mean oh 2169 01:44:54,650 --> 01:44:52,440 my god come on give me a better story 2170 01:44:56,180 --> 01:44:54,660 than that but you know here at the same 2171 01:44:57,980 --> 01:44:56,190 time I like the guy because at least 2172 01:45:01,730 --> 01:44:57,990 they've got he seems like a likable guy 2173 01:45:03,380 --> 01:45:01,740 and he's approachable you know so I'm 2174 01:45:06,050 --> 01:45:03,390 glad they chose him to be their 2175 01:45:08,510 --> 01:45:06,060 mouthpiece for a while but the cover 2176 01:45:12,220 --> 01:45:08,520 story cracks me up what do you mean they 2177 01:45:16,250 --> 01:45:12,230 chose him you think the Pentagon is 2178 01:45:18,740 --> 01:45:16,260 letting is he under instruction what and 2179 01:45:20,180 --> 01:45:18,750 when you say Cho yeah yeah yeah he's 2180 01:45:22,610 --> 01:45:20,190 part of the soft he's part of the 2181 01:45:25,070 --> 01:45:22,620 disclosure project he's going to be the 2182 01:45:27,770 --> 01:45:25,080 first little pebble rolling down the 2183 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:27,780 hill and then you know he'll he'll end 2184 01:45:31,250 --> 01:45:29,610 up doing something else and somebody 2185 01:45:33,500 --> 01:45:31,260 else will step forward and then it'll be 2186 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:33,510 that guy and you know bigger news and 2187 01:45:39,530 --> 01:45:36,570 blah blah blah so I think he was the 2188 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:39,540 first the first step in 2189 01:45:43,550 --> 01:45:41,370 you know they're testing the waters are 2190 01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:43,560 going to see how the public responds to 2191 01:45:50,900 --> 01:45:46,560 see what comes of this information being 2192 01:45:52,820 --> 01:45:50,910 put out there and you know so far it's 2193 01:45:55,670 --> 01:45:52,830 been fairly innocuous nothing's happened 2194 01:45:58,460 --> 01:45:55,680 yeah completely innocuous now what do 2195 01:46:00,260 --> 01:45:58,470 you what do you make of that because if 2196 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:00,270 they were testing the waters well the 2197 01:46:04,610 --> 01:46:02,970 waters didn't even ripple then ripple 2198 01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:04,620 yeah you know think about the public 2199 01:46:09,530 --> 01:46:06,690 we've been you know programmed one not 2200 01:46:10,850 --> 01:46:09,540 to believe in UFOs but two you know 2201 01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,860 throughout the 60s 2202 01:46:15,530 --> 01:46:12,480 starting with Star Trek and all these 2203 01:46:18,740 --> 01:46:15,540 different shows Star Wars and boom boom 2204 01:46:21,580 --> 01:46:18,750 boom boom our psyche has been programmed 2205 01:46:22,970 --> 01:46:21,590 to accept this possibility right 2206 01:46:26,990 --> 01:46:22,980 desensitized 2207 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:27,000 you know when it finally plays out hater 2208 01:46:31,690 --> 01:46:28,650 really here and by the way they look 2209 01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:31,700 like you know 8-foot tall reptilian-type 2210 01:46:38,540 --> 01:46:34,500 okay what's for dinner yeah I saw that 2211 01:46:40,730 --> 01:46:38,550 in lost in space with dr. Smith sat on 2212 01:46:43,550 --> 01:46:40,740 Star Trek when Kirk had to fight that 2213 01:46:50,510 --> 01:46:43,560 reptilian so one of the best scenes ever 2214 01:46:59,410 --> 01:46:50,520 in the history of television but the the 2215 01:47:03,140 --> 01:46:59,420 sleestaks the and we can't but the the 2216 01:47:04,940 --> 01:47:03,150 the world didn't collapse right he had 2217 01:47:09,850 --> 01:47:04,950 the condom report and he had the 2218 01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:09,860 Brookings Institute and and the original 2219 01:47:17,050 --> 01:47:14,850 1953 report that when all of these 2220 01:47:19,790 --> 01:47:17,060 things were suggesting at that time 2221 01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:19,800 about a breakdown in civilization and 2222 01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:22,880 Wall Street economic collapse and 2223 01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:26,130 lawlessness religions everything would 2224 01:47:33,470 --> 01:47:28,800 just you know completely fall apart if 2225 01:47:36,290 --> 01:47:33,480 the reveal came out that et was here but 2226 01:47:37,820 --> 01:47:36,300 the reveal did happen it's certainly I 2227 01:47:40,610 --> 01:47:37,830 mean you can't get better coverage than 2228 01:47:43,190 --> 01:47:40,620 what the mass media did but right but 2229 01:47:45,110 --> 01:47:43,200 we're still here we're still here and 2230 01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:45,120 not much is going on no one's talking 2231 01:47:49,790 --> 01:47:46,890 about two weeks after the disclosure or 2232 01:47:51,650 --> 01:47:49,800 the event no one's talking about it you 2233 01:47:53,490 --> 01:47:51,660 know when it when it finally when it 2234 01:47:55,890 --> 01:47:53,500 finally really hits 2235 01:47:58,680 --> 01:47:55,900 and you know the president finally says 2236 01:48:01,770 --> 01:47:58,690 or whoever are you know profound leader 2237 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:01,780 is at the time says hey you know guess 2238 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:03,730 what they're here they've been here you 2239 01:48:10,020 --> 01:48:06,130 know we've been hiding them because this 2240 01:48:12,270 --> 01:48:10,030 or that the people that I think have 2241 01:48:15,390 --> 01:48:12,280 suffered the most or the the abductees 2242 01:48:17,390 --> 01:48:15,400 the experiencers because you know it 2243 01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:17,400 hasn't been pleasant for those people 2244 01:48:22,710 --> 01:48:20,650 you know a lot of psychological trauma a 2245 01:48:25,530 --> 01:48:22,720 lot of physical trauma 2246 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:25,540 you know just about well I don't want to 2247 01:48:32,130 --> 01:48:28,810 get into it but a lot of women I know 2248 01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:32,140 who have been abductees and are now in 2249 01:48:36,210 --> 01:48:34,750 their later years they've all had female 2250 01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:36,220 problems hysterectomies and things 2251 01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:38,770 because of their experiences so it 2252 01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:42,490 hasn't been pleasant for them and you 2253 01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:44,770 know a lot of them have had psyche the 2254 01:48:49,590 --> 01:48:47,110 psychotic breaks things like that they 2255 01:48:52,340 --> 01:48:49,600 don't deal well with crowds they have 2256 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:52,350 all kinds of strange you know little 2257 01:48:57,770 --> 01:48:55,330 neuroses because of the experiences so 2258 01:49:02,040 --> 01:48:57,780 not all not all some have adapted in and 2259 01:49:04,350 --> 01:49:02,050 and and have done fine but those people 2260 01:49:06,330 --> 01:49:04,360 you know if the government owes an 2261 01:49:08,190 --> 01:49:06,340 apology to any group of people it will 2262 01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:08,200 have to owe an apology to them and say 2263 01:49:14,250 --> 01:49:10,540 hey we knew about this we just couldn't 2264 01:49:17,490 --> 01:49:14,260 protect you we couldn't stop it or if 2265 01:49:21,630 --> 01:49:17,500 you believe my labs we knew about this 2266 01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:21,640 and we were also you know sort of like 2267 01:49:25,470 --> 01:49:24,070 doing mock experiments to see how you'd 2268 01:49:29,250 --> 01:49:25,480 respond to that as well 2269 01:49:30,630 --> 01:49:29,260 it was really kind of messed up so I 2270 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:30,640 don't know how that's going to go Jim I 2271 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:32,650 don't but the smaller it's a very small 2272 01:49:39,090 --> 01:49:35,370 fraction of the of the population well 2273 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:39,100 the the my lab side of things are the 2274 01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:43,770 super soldiers MKULTRA a lot of these 2275 01:49:49,980 --> 01:49:48,130 clandestine CIA projects that not only 2276 01:49:51,660 --> 01:49:49,990 were instituted here in the United 2277 01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:51,670 States but certainly outside of the 2278 01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:54,130 country where laws don't apply here 2279 01:50:01,020 --> 01:49:58,000 inside of the United States it appears 2280 01:50:04,620 --> 01:50:01,030 that this has been going on for a while 2281 01:50:07,050 --> 01:50:04,630 and I think that part of this can be put 2282 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:07,060 back into the UFO question too 2283 01:50:13,890 --> 01:50:10,570 as well we're in an abduction which is 2284 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:13,900 all too real some underground base where 2285 01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:16,690 you're taken to and and the examination 2286 01:50:22,380 --> 01:50:19,390 table could all have been just a 2287 01:50:27,090 --> 01:50:22,390 fantastic movie set set up by the 2288 01:50:29,970 --> 01:50:27,100 government to to share that experience 2289 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:29,980 of abduction so you can go out because 2290 01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:32,770 the experience is real so you go out and 2291 01:50:39,180 --> 01:50:34,900 you report about this experience either 2292 01:50:42,030 --> 01:50:39,190 you're crazy or there are those that are 2293 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:42,040 gonna support you on this but it wasn't 2294 01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:44,650 an et experience at all and it was 2295 01:50:51,390 --> 01:50:47,710 something that was staged right right 2296 01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:51,400 right but and how nefarious is that to 2297 01:50:57,390 --> 01:50:53,770 perpetrate something like that on you 2298 01:51:00,090 --> 01:50:57,400 know unsuspecting an unwitting person 2299 01:51:00,570 --> 01:51:00,100 you know just a regular person like you 2300 01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:00,580 and me 2301 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:04,090 well well which is which i think is part 2302 01:51:11,370 --> 01:51:06,850 of the point of disclosure because if 2303 01:51:13,260 --> 01:51:11,380 this starts to surface in an 2304 01:51:14,700 --> 01:51:13,270 uncontrollable way we're now the 2305 01:51:17,190 --> 01:51:14,710 governments can have to go back and 2306 01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:17,200 answer a lot of questions and and and 2307 01:51:21,630 --> 01:51:19,570 certainly speak the truth about the lies 2308 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:21,640 that they have been dealing with for the 2309 01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:24,010 last seventy years and then there's the 2310 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:26,080 other parts of this puzzle that have to 2311 01:51:34,260 --> 01:51:30,010 come into play like MKULTRA and and and 2312 01:51:37,020 --> 01:51:34,270 Mockingbird and in the mylabs program 2313 01:51:40,590 --> 01:51:37,030 and possibly even you know the super 2314 01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:40,600 soldiers and the other things that that 2315 01:51:46,170 --> 01:51:42,810 are connected because they are connected 2316 01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:46,180 yeah all of it all the controlled 2317 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:48,400 clandestinely you know we're paying for 2318 01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:48,730 it 2319 01:52:00,630 --> 01:51:58,330 for a guy to to come into your house and 2320 01:52:02,460 --> 01:52:00,640 take you away and perform these 2321 01:52:05,190 --> 01:52:02,470 experiments on you and then you know 2322 01:52:09,660 --> 01:52:05,200 plop you back in your bed and drugged up 2323 01:52:12,060 --> 01:52:09,670 or who knows what well yeah now which is 2324 01:52:14,090 --> 01:52:12,070 I think is one of the most important 2325 01:52:18,030 --> 01:52:14,100 things that we can speak about because 2326 01:52:20,490 --> 01:52:18,040 disclosure like I said the waters didn't 2327 01:52:23,250 --> 01:52:20,500 even ripple okay well 2328 01:52:26,820 --> 01:52:23,260 that's right part of it but the waters 2329 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:26,830 would ripple if everything else came it 2330 01:52:32,030 --> 01:52:29,650 came to surface that some of these alien 2331 01:52:36,270 --> 01:52:32,040 abductions were staged that you know 2332 01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:36,280 American citizens were kidnapped out of 2333 01:52:42,870 --> 01:52:38,490 their own homes or a campground and 2334 01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:42,880 subjected to this this mind torture and 2335 01:52:51,540 --> 01:52:46,540 then placed back and and then I don't 2336 01:52:54,630 --> 01:52:51,550 think that the reaction would be as as 2337 01:52:57,170 --> 01:52:54,640 civil as it was through the disclosure 2338 01:53:02,490 --> 01:52:57,180 that happened back in December of 2017 2339 01:53:04,260 --> 01:53:02,500 yeah I agree no writing well see that's 2340 01:53:05,930 --> 01:53:04,270 the problem it's a small population so 2341 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:05,940 you wouldn't really have riots but you'd 2342 01:53:10,170 --> 01:53:08,050 you're definitely gonna have some angry 2343 01:53:16,110 --> 01:53:10,180 people with some lawsuits head in 2344 01:53:19,860 --> 01:53:16,120 somebody's way well do you think that if 2345 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:19,870 there was a document dump you know 2346 01:53:26,460 --> 01:53:22,330 something with Wikipedia some you know 2347 01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:26,470 anonymous goes and hacks into the CIA's 2348 01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:28,690 computers of the NASA computers and they 2349 01:53:38,190 --> 01:53:32,530 they get a bunch of footage right real I 2350 01:53:41,310 --> 01:53:38,200 mean real footage of et area51 real 2351 01:53:46,230 --> 01:53:41,320 craft real situations real documents 2352 01:53:48,180 --> 01:53:46,240 that that can't be questioned now we've 2353 01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:48,190 got a situation that is a little bit 2354 01:53:54,110 --> 01:53:51,280 different than gun camera footage you 2355 01:53:58,740 --> 01:53:54,120 know by an aircraft carrier in San Diego 2356 01:54:01,110 --> 01:53:58,750 right definitely definitely yeah then 2357 01:54:02,460 --> 01:54:01,120 it's then it's real man it's all out 2358 01:54:07,230 --> 01:54:02,470 there in the public and everybody knows 2359 01:54:08,610 --> 01:54:07,240 about it how would that change how would 2360 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:08,620 that change our religion would there 2361 01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:10,810 would religion fall apart I don't I 2362 01:54:16,020 --> 01:54:13,840 don't think so I don't think so what do 2363 01:54:19,890 --> 01:54:16,030 you think well I'm surprised that the 2364 01:54:23,670 --> 01:54:19,900 Vatican didn't react through all of this 2365 01:54:24,750 --> 01:54:23,680 mass media at least have a statement now 2366 01:54:27,570 --> 01:54:24,760 they didn't come out with a statement 2367 01:54:29,010 --> 01:54:27,580 that's right they did not they've come 2368 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:29,020 out with statements in the in the past 2369 01:54:34,350 --> 01:54:33,010 about et the possibility of et but not 2370 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:34,360 surrounding 2371 01:54:42,060 --> 01:54:37,570 soft disclosure 2017 what do you think 2372 01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:42,070 the next step is when it comes to what 2373 01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:44,050 is happening now and I'm referring to I 2374 01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:50,830 mean could TTS a really I mean not 2375 01:54:59,100 --> 01:54:56,800 really but actually produce more videos 2376 01:55:02,129 --> 01:54:59,110 that allegedly are released from the 2377 01:55:03,660 --> 01:55:02,139 Pentagon well it's possible 2378 01:55:05,970 --> 01:55:03,670 you know they got egg on their face with 2379 01:55:08,669 --> 01:55:05,980 that balloon the mylar balloon photo 2380 01:55:11,010 --> 01:55:08,679 right um no yes so their credibility is 2381 01:55:13,129 --> 01:55:11,020 sort of whacked out I think it's going 2382 01:55:16,140 --> 01:55:13,139 to come from Bigelow I think that 2383 01:55:18,270 --> 01:55:16,150 they're going to start talking about not 2384 01:55:21,780 --> 01:55:18,280 maybe maybe a metals they've recovered 2385 01:55:23,939 --> 01:55:21,790 or some sort of a material that can't be 2386 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:23,949 manufactured on this planet something 2387 01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:25,810 that's laid down at the molecular level 2388 01:55:29,459 --> 01:55:28,330 in layers composites something like that 2389 01:55:33,390 --> 01:55:29,469 that we could we don't have the ability 2390 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:33,400 to do and some kind of disclosure like 2391 01:55:38,399 --> 01:55:36,610 that here we have a physical thing that 2392 01:55:40,020 --> 01:55:38,409 everybody can study and this is this is 2393 01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:40,030 that we just can't make it we can look 2394 01:55:45,209 --> 01:55:41,440 at it but we don't have to make it yet 2395 01:55:49,260 --> 01:55:45,219 well this is what I want from Bigelow 2396 01:55:50,490 --> 01:55:49,270 okay and I'm being straight this is what 2397 01:55:53,209 --> 01:55:50,500 I want from Bigelow 2398 01:55:57,930 --> 01:55:53,219 I want like three questions answered 2399 01:56:00,810 --> 01:55:57,940 number one the materials that you 2400 01:56:02,250 --> 01:56:00,820 allegedly have it's you know we haven't 2401 01:56:03,870 --> 01:56:02,260 had a press conference we haven't seen 2402 01:56:06,030 --> 01:56:03,880 any materials we haven't seen any 2403 01:56:08,970 --> 01:56:06,040 evidence of anything but the reports are 2404 01:56:12,149 --> 01:56:08,980 that he's got a warehouse in Las Vegas 2405 01:56:14,820 --> 01:56:12,159 funded by the Pentagon that to study 2406 01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:14,830 these materials okay so let's say that 2407 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:17,730 he does then the materials that you have 2408 01:56:25,590 --> 01:56:22,210 were they a from Roswell were they from 2409 01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:25,600 a crashed retrieved craft by the 2410 01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:28,570 military and then is supplied to you 2411 01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:30,730 directly from the craft number one 2412 01:56:36,959 --> 01:56:33,690 number two are the materials from 2413 01:56:40,020 --> 01:56:36,969 civilians where civilians say that they 2414 01:56:42,209 --> 01:56:40,030 went out on their farm found some trace 2415 01:56:45,390 --> 01:56:42,219 evidence and then sent it to you or 2416 01:56:48,210 --> 01:56:45,400 three are these materials just whatever 2417 01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:48,220 that you can identify and 2418 01:56:53,580 --> 01:56:50,050 to figure out what it is but you don't 2419 01:56:55,700 --> 01:56:53,590 know where they came from I want one of 2420 01:56:58,710 --> 01:56:55,710 those questions answered or all three 2421 01:57:00,780 --> 01:56:58,720 because that that is what is most 2422 01:57:04,620 --> 01:57:00,790 important here because and I'll tell you 2423 01:57:11,420 --> 01:57:04,630 right now if Bigelow has in his 2424 01:57:15,210 --> 01:57:11,430 warehouse a piece of a control panel a 2425 01:57:19,140 --> 01:57:15,220 seat how about a helmet how about a 2426 01:57:22,590 --> 01:57:19,150 piece of clothing from et no I'm talking 2427 01:57:26,460 --> 01:57:22,600 about the real deal stuff then he should 2428 01:57:29,940 --> 01:57:26,470 go public I don't care what your oath is 2429 01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:29,950 I don't care what your agreement is you 2430 01:57:37,230 --> 01:57:33,310 become the biggest hero in the history 2431 01:57:40,110 --> 01:57:37,240 of mankind that's what you do at that 2432 01:57:43,770 --> 01:57:40,120 point come forward and go here is a 2433 01:57:50,340 --> 01:57:43,780 piece of a seat the air it is here it is 2434 01:57:52,580 --> 01:57:50,350 here here is the dashboard this is et 2435 01:57:56,370 --> 01:57:52,590 technology here it is here's a chunk 2436 01:57:59,070 --> 01:57:56,380 here's the hull of the ship right that's 2437 01:58:03,240 --> 01:57:59,080 right and that that's what you do and 2438 01:58:05,190 --> 01:58:03,250 anything else beyond that then it's just 2439 01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:05,200 whatever then it was something that was 2440 01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:07,450 found in the field it was something that 2441 01:58:12,210 --> 01:58:10,480 somebody found it was an archeological 2442 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:12,220 dig and it's some strange looking piece 2443 01:58:17,730 --> 01:58:15,370 of material you know but if it came from 2444 01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:17,740 a craft and was sent to him to 2445 01:58:23,940 --> 01:58:20,530 investigate that go public with it be a 2446 01:58:26,430 --> 01:58:23,950 martyr you know and I'm serious I'm 2447 01:58:28,860 --> 01:58:26,440 serious I know you are but could you 2448 01:58:31,050 --> 01:58:28,870 imagine you know yeah but you know he's 2449 01:58:34,290 --> 01:58:31,060 looking at a billion dollar industry who 2450 01:58:36,270 --> 01:58:34,300 cares you know I know he would be and if 2451 01:58:40,590 --> 01:58:36,280 anybody has the guts to do it I think 2452 01:58:44,790 --> 01:58:40,600 it's it's him but you know be in that he 2453 01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:44,800 is a businessman the inclination is to 2454 01:58:49,710 --> 01:58:47,950 control the information to his benefit 2455 01:58:52,410 --> 01:58:49,720 for as long as possible then finally 2456 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:52,420 releases it you know what five thousand 2457 01:58:59,280 --> 01:58:55,570 years from now five thousand eleven um I 2458 01:59:00,149 --> 01:58:59,290 know know if he if he stepped up right 2459 01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:00,159 now and 2460 01:59:05,310 --> 01:59:03,130 brought out the dashboard the Statue of 2461 01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:05,320 Liberty would be replaced with the 2462 01:59:12,379 --> 01:59:08,110 Statue of Bigelow it would be the most 2463 01:59:16,140 --> 01:59:12,389 famous man in the history of everything 2464 01:59:18,060 --> 01:59:16,150 right so so you know you know why Jim 2465 01:59:19,860 --> 01:59:18,070 I'm after the propulsion system you know 2466 01:59:21,209 --> 01:59:19,870 what I mean I'm be the most famous man 2467 01:59:25,919 --> 01:59:21,219 right right right 2468 01:59:28,860 --> 01:59:25,929 so so it says to me that he doesn't have 2469 01:59:31,590 --> 01:59:28,870 that stuff that's my point 2470 01:59:34,439 --> 01:59:31,600 okay it's just something that he has 2471 01:59:37,470 --> 01:59:34,449 it's but it's just so small it's just 2472 01:59:40,350 --> 01:59:37,480 like again it's a thing the size of your 2473 01:59:41,939 --> 01:59:40,360 thumb that's layered molecular Li that 2474 01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:41,949 has an isotope that you couldn't produce 2475 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:44,320 here you know something like that 2476 01:59:48,030 --> 01:59:46,810 that you just can't produce it he 2477 01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:48,040 doesn't know how it was made 2478 01:59:51,899 --> 01:59:49,870 here it is we can look at it through an 2479 01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:51,909 electron microscope you know the best 2480 01:59:56,610 --> 01:59:54,880 that we have and and this is it but we 2481 02:00:00,570 --> 01:59:56,620 don't know how to make it maybe it's 2482 02:00:03,689 --> 02:00:00,580 something like and and there's probably 2483 02:00:06,990 --> 02:00:03,699 tons of tons of that on this planet for 2484 02:00:08,850 --> 02:00:07,000 meteorites things that have crashed to 2485 02:00:11,700 --> 02:00:08,860 this you know that that have come from 2486 02:00:14,820 --> 02:00:11,710 the solar system over the years there's 2487 02:00:18,209 --> 02:00:14,830 probably tons of that I am referring to 2488 02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:18,219 what is it that he has does he have a 2489 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:21,730 chunk of he's of a flying saucer that 2490 02:00:26,850 --> 02:00:24,130 might say we're gonna find out soon well 2491 02:00:28,770 --> 02:00:26,860 then I bet you with and I would say 2492 02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:28,780 before the end of this year you're gonna 2493 02:00:32,459 --> 02:00:30,730 hear something from Bigelow that's my 2494 02:00:34,379 --> 02:00:32,469 guess I don't know why I'm saying that 2495 02:00:36,750 --> 02:00:34,389 I'm just thinking that's where it's 2496 02:00:39,570 --> 02:00:36,760 headed you know he stepped out last May 2497 02:00:41,939 --> 02:00:39,580 May with the 60-minute interview and 2498 02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:41,949 great interviews because it was he stuck 2499 02:00:46,290 --> 02:00:43,570 his neck out man and he said I don't 2500 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:46,300 care right know what you know aren't you 2501 02:00:49,919 --> 02:00:47,530 afraid that other people are gonna make 2502 02:00:51,479 --> 02:00:49,929 I don't care and he has you know he has 2503 02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:51,489 the guns to say that you know what I 2504 02:00:56,510 --> 02:00:53,650 mean he has he's controlling the 2505 02:00:59,850 --> 02:00:56,520 situation so he has the guns to say that 2506 02:01:03,030 --> 02:00:59,860 you know someone like me who's in the 2507 02:01:04,740 --> 02:01:03,040 regular world who has to do business you 2508 02:01:06,810 --> 02:01:04,750 know I can't I can't come I can't 2509 02:01:08,550 --> 02:01:06,820 proselytizer in the corner about et when 2510 02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:08,560 I'm trying to sell multimillion-dollar 2511 02:01:13,289 --> 02:01:11,230 homes you know I mean people are not 2512 02:01:18,089 --> 02:01:13,299 gonna let me list their house 2513 02:01:21,419 --> 02:01:18,099 he's into it so that's cool that 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02:05:20,909 really love ponies I'm serious I 2600 02:05:27,419 --> 02:05:23,530 couldn't stay stable without poor mr. 2601 02:05:32,650 --> 02:05:27,429 Brooks why fade to black because you 2602 02:05:36,650 --> 02:05:34,729 this is fade to black 2603 02:05:40,340 --> 02:05:36,660 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2604 02:05:49,470 --> 02:05:40,350 radio network and K GRA the global radio 2605 02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:55,199 [Music] 2606 02:06:00,429 --> 02:05:58,199 welcome back 2607 02:06:03,339 --> 02:06:00,439 fade to black I'm healed see me Church 2608 02:06:05,229 --> 02:06:03,349 our guest tonight Steve Murillo talking 2609 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:05,239 about all things you Epona night somehow 2610 02:06:12,219 --> 02:06:09,530 we we tied a big foot back to your 2611 02:06:17,290 --> 02:06:12,229 photos once again Steve I want to uh I 2612 02:06:21,100 --> 02:06:17,300 want to ask you this the not to kick a 2613 02:06:24,729 --> 02:06:21,110 dead horse but when it when it comes to 2614 02:06:27,370 --> 02:06:24,739 a tip right and the Pentagon and there's 2615 02:06:29,799 --> 02:06:27,380 this twenty two million dollars over 2616 02:06:31,629 --> 02:06:29,809 five years which is nothing when we talk 2617 02:06:33,279 --> 02:06:31,639 about twenty one trillion dollars being 2618 02:06:35,439 --> 02:06:33,289 missing twenty two million dollars and 2619 02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:35,449 the Pentagon said that there wasn't 2620 02:06:39,609 --> 02:06:38,090 anything you know they needed to spend 2621 02:06:42,929 --> 02:06:39,619 the money elsewhere and so forth okay 2622 02:06:47,049 --> 02:06:42,939 all right I'll go with that but this is 2623 02:06:51,310 --> 02:06:47,059 this is where my mind wanders wants your 2624 02:06:54,729 --> 02:06:51,320 opinion when it comes to a tip and you 2625 02:06:56,409 --> 02:06:54,739 got a picture this is what this is what 2626 02:06:59,679 --> 02:06:56,419 the community has been led to believe 2627 02:07:01,689 --> 02:06:59,689 that there's a secret government program 2628 02:07:03,939 --> 02:07:01,699 going on at the Pentagon called a tip 2629 02:07:06,429 --> 02:07:03,949 and somebody's running through the 2630 02:07:08,979 --> 02:07:06,439 Pentagon right some Air Force dude hey 2631 02:07:11,409 --> 02:07:08,989 man I got this UFO report and I got this 2632 02:07:16,810 --> 02:07:11,419 footage what do we do ah take it down to 2633 02:07:18,489 --> 02:07:16,820 a tip oh yeah that's right okay right so 2634 02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:18,499 you run down the hall and you run into 2635 02:07:26,169 --> 02:07:21,050 the a tip offices and you give them this 2636 02:07:29,979 --> 02:07:26,179 UFO report and a tip is now going to 2637 02:07:33,790 --> 02:07:29,989 investigate and a tip team is is on the 2638 02:07:37,919 --> 02:07:33,800 case right wait a minute I want to know 2639 02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:37,929 I want to know from Lois how many people 2640 02:07:50,319 --> 02:07:42,169 worked under him at a tip I bet you the 2641 02:07:54,509 --> 02:07:50,329 number is zero I bet you okay and that 2642 02:07:56,919 --> 02:07:54,519 there's 22 million dollars okay wasn't 2643 02:07:59,500 --> 02:07:56,929 anywhere inside of the Pentagon there 2644 02:08:02,949 --> 02:07:59,510 was no a tip computer sitting on an 2645 02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:02,959 eight tip desk in an office with an a 2646 02:08:07,580 --> 02:08:05,290 tip right no at 2647 02:08:13,290 --> 02:08:07,590 twenty-two million dollars went to 2648 02:08:14,490 --> 02:08:13,300 Bigelow right so are we are we at you 2649 02:08:17,130 --> 02:08:14,500 know to go and investigate these 2650 02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:17,140 metamaterials okay fine okay but as far 2651 02:08:22,170 --> 02:08:20,110 as a tip goes and having offices inside 2652 02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:22,180 of the Pentagon and Lewis Elizondo 2653 02:08:27,870 --> 02:08:24,370 sitting there you know in his a tip 2654 02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:27,880 office that didn't exist that's that's 2655 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:30,310 my gut feeling I have nothing to go on 2656 02:08:35,820 --> 02:08:33,370 here but that's right I just don't think 2657 02:08:38,970 --> 02:08:35,830 that that is the case but the community 2658 02:08:42,180 --> 02:08:38,980 has been led to believe that that is 2659 02:08:44,370 --> 02:08:42,190 what you know happened and and so I 2660 02:08:50,010 --> 02:08:44,380 would like to you know have Lewis answer 2661 02:08:54,060 --> 02:08:50,020 that quick was your staff but I bet you 2662 02:08:56,010 --> 02:08:54,070 answer is zero there was no staff you 2663 02:08:59,760 --> 02:08:56,020 know there you know a tip wasn't that 2664 02:09:02,880 --> 02:08:59,770 kind of situation there wasn't a big 2665 02:09:04,830 --> 02:09:02,890 crew of investigators looking at these 2666 02:09:07,260 --> 02:09:04,840 videos and these reports and 2667 02:09:09,210 --> 02:09:07,270 interviewing pilots and talking right it 2668 02:09:12,780 --> 02:09:09,220 just didn't laugh well guys know it 2669 02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:12,790 didn't exist no no it was Elizondo maybe 2670 02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:17,410 who answered - maybe somebody above him 2671 02:09:21,150 --> 02:09:19,330 in the Pentagon and Harry Reid's 2672 02:09:23,070 --> 02:09:21,160 you know and how do we get this money 2673 02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:23,080 and that's a really good possibility Jim 2674 02:09:27,390 --> 02:09:25,210 yeah how do we just give this money to 2675 02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:27,400 big low so he can study this 2676 02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:29,710 metamaterial how do we do that okay 2677 02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:32,370 let's create this little charade 2678 02:09:37,740 --> 02:09:34,930 Eliz long yeah but then why bring out 2679 02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:37,750 Elizondo as a why key why not just keep 2680 02:09:42,510 --> 02:09:40,210 it secret you see on say yeah why just 2681 02:09:45,230 --> 02:09:42,520 why come forward on you know whatever 2682 02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:45,240 December was it December 16th yes 2683 02:09:51,180 --> 02:09:48,970 so why come forward on that day yeah you 2684 02:09:52,650 --> 02:09:51,190 know why do all that you know if you're 2685 02:09:53,850 --> 02:09:52,660 gonna if you're gonna keep something if 2686 02:09:55,890 --> 02:09:53,860 you want to keep a secret don't tell 2687 02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:55,900 anybody right so why bring it up just 2688 02:10:00,780 --> 02:09:58,960 leave it so I don't know man 2689 02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:00,790 I don't know but I agree with you I 2690 02:10:03,930 --> 02:10:02,050 don't think there's this little office 2691 02:10:06,060 --> 02:10:03,940 where all these dudes were you know 2692 02:10:10,530 --> 02:10:06,070 studying UFO pictures and looking at 2693 02:10:13,290 --> 02:10:10,540 footage no you know the I told you a 2694 02:10:16,410 --> 02:10:13,300 story I think a long time ago when I was 2695 02:10:18,540 --> 02:10:16,420 at Cherry Point we happen to be there 2696 02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:18,550 for a cross-country and we're at the O 2697 02:10:20,709 --> 02:10:19,130 club 2698 02:10:23,140 --> 02:10:20,719 just what we love to do at the end of a 2699 02:10:26,110 --> 02:10:23,150 flight right there is a Friday night and 2700 02:10:29,979 --> 02:10:26,120 to my buddy's role in there from Cherry 2701 02:10:32,410 --> 02:10:29,989 Point and they were f4 guys f4 phantom 2702 02:10:37,209 --> 02:10:32,420 drivers and they had been infected to 2703 02:10:39,220 --> 02:10:37,219 chase a UFO and that day that's what 2704 02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:39,230 happened that day so this is the story 2705 02:10:43,570 --> 02:10:40,850 they told us were getting drunk and we 2706 02:10:44,919 --> 02:10:43,580 all laughed at him that they were vector 2707 02:10:47,530 --> 02:10:44,929 to chase this object 2708 02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:47,540 they took gun camera footage of it it 2709 02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:50,090 sped away at a high rate of speed of 2710 02:10:54,729 --> 02:10:52,370 course right but they got footage of it 2711 02:10:58,090 --> 02:10:54,739 they were they were made made to land 2712 02:11:00,520 --> 02:10:58,100 and then made to go to a hangar that 2713 02:11:02,530 --> 02:11:00,530 nobody used and made the sit in a little 2714 02:11:03,820 --> 02:11:02,540 office you know inside the hangar 2715 02:11:04,930 --> 02:11:03,830 they're always a little little offices 2716 02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:04,940 there they were made to sit there and 2717 02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:07,370 wait until this guy from Washington 2718 02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:10,610 showed up in a little Learjet got off 2719 02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:12,800 the jet got the gun camera footage 2720 02:11:16,689 --> 02:11:15,170 through this briefcase and then looked 2721 02:11:18,430 --> 02:11:16,699 and said this never happened you guys 2722 02:11:21,459 --> 02:11:18,440 can't talk about this got back on the 2723 02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:21,469 plane and left okay so that guy had to 2724 02:11:25,930 --> 02:11:23,330 take that stuff somewhere that footage 2725 02:11:30,250 --> 02:11:25,940 right he had a mission somebody got that 2726 02:11:31,959 --> 02:11:30,260 footage and so you know the my point is 2727 02:11:33,879 --> 02:11:31,969 the military has a way of dealing with 2728 02:11:36,850 --> 02:11:33,889 this information they always have I 2729 02:11:40,959 --> 02:11:36,860 don't know what it is probably a lot of 2730 02:11:42,490 --> 02:11:40,969 guys don't know right so but it exists 2731 02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:42,500 and it has existed so where does that 2732 02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:44,090 all where's all that footage end up 2733 02:11:48,879 --> 02:11:46,850 maybe in a little room that nobody knows 2734 02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:48,889 about with some guys that nobody ever 2735 02:11:54,729 --> 02:11:52,690 sees or talked to I don't know man it's 2736 02:11:56,649 --> 02:11:54,739 really interesting but I guarantee you 2737 02:11:58,930 --> 02:11:56,659 22 million bucks it's not going to take 2738 02:12:00,700 --> 02:11:58,940 care of much they don't might pay for 2739 02:12:03,010 --> 02:12:00,710 two guys for a couple years and that's 2740 02:12:05,649 --> 02:12:03,020 about it you know do research get 2741 02:12:10,540 --> 02:12:05,659 equipment well how does the gun camera 2742 02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:10,550 footage work in that is it rolling all 2743 02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:13,130 the time or do you have to turn it on 2744 02:12:24,010 --> 02:12:18,110 you turn it on okay so in the case with 2745 02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:24,020 these guys how long do you think the the 2746 02:12:30,550 --> 02:12:28,250 footage was no idea no I would guess 2747 02:12:31,540 --> 02:12:30,560 maybe just minutes just a couple minutes 2748 02:12:32,919 --> 02:12:31,550 okay 2749 02:12:36,399 --> 02:12:32,929 now when we 2750 02:12:41,140 --> 02:12:36,409 we act we go down yeah go ahead we go 2751 02:12:43,779 --> 02:12:41,150 back to this footage that these three 2752 02:12:46,629 --> 02:12:43,789 pieces of video that have been you know 2753 02:12:50,229 --> 02:12:46,639 around on the web some of it has been 2754 02:12:53,049 --> 02:12:50,239 around for for ten years you know it's 2755 02:12:54,669 --> 02:12:53,059 not like yeah anyway when you look at 2756 02:12:58,719 --> 02:12:54,679 this footage this footage is only 2757 02:13:02,739 --> 02:12:58,729 seconds long right a minute here but 2758 02:13:06,759 --> 02:13:02,749 there's footage before and after that is 2759 02:13:10,259 --> 02:13:06,769 not there right and like this go fast 2760 02:13:13,359 --> 02:13:10,269 video well where's the footage before 2761 02:13:16,390 --> 02:13:13,369 this clip and where's the footage after 2762 02:13:18,939 --> 02:13:16,400 and and what were the results what were 2763 02:13:22,779 --> 02:13:18,949 the pilots saying before and what were 2764 02:13:26,290 --> 02:13:22,789 the pilots saying after and did they 2765 02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:26,300 come to any conclusions because that's I 2766 02:13:31,469 --> 02:13:28,130 think that's the the best part of the 2767 02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:31,479 footage is the before and after stuff 2768 02:13:39,069 --> 02:13:36,650 right right yeah because well and and 2769 02:13:40,689 --> 02:13:39,079 maybe maybe what they saw is classified 2770 02:13:42,339 --> 02:13:40,699 you know maybe maybe they're not 2771 02:13:44,290 --> 02:13:42,349 disclosing or they didn't want you to 2772 02:13:46,410 --> 02:13:44,300 know that this thing went from 60,000 2773 02:13:49,330 --> 02:13:46,420 they didn't want you to see it go from 2774 02:13:50,919 --> 02:13:49,340 60,000 feet to 15 foot above the deck in 2775 02:13:54,009 --> 02:13:50,929 seconds right right because what would 2776 02:13:56,410 --> 02:13:54,019 that look like you know what would it 2777 02:13:57,790 --> 02:13:56,420 mean if you see a craft that can 2778 02:14:00,879 --> 02:13:57,800 outperform everything in your inventory 2779 02:14:02,589 --> 02:14:00,889 just you know and and when you see 2780 02:14:04,719 --> 02:14:02,599 something streaked off kind of like that 2781 02:14:07,859 --> 02:14:04,729 thing we saw in the desert right when 2782 02:14:11,469 --> 02:14:07,869 you see something do those things it 2783 02:14:13,060 --> 02:14:11,479 blows it blows it just blows the lid 2784 02:14:15,729 --> 02:14:13,070 right off the top of your head usually 2785 02:14:17,589 --> 02:14:15,739 it totally destroys any construct of 2786 02:14:17,979 --> 02:14:17,599 physics that you ever had you know what 2787 02:14:20,890 --> 02:14:17,989 I mean 2788 02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:20,900 so and maybe that's what they're keeping 2789 02:14:27,459 --> 02:14:23,360 from not only the general public but 2790 02:14:30,250 --> 02:14:27,469 other countries who knows you know well 2791 02:14:32,580 --> 02:14:30,260 and then the possibility exists let's 2792 02:14:35,259 --> 02:14:32,590 talk about like the gimbal footage right 2793 02:14:39,339 --> 02:14:35,269 and you're watching that thing twist and 2794 02:14:41,319 --> 02:14:39,349 turn and it looks like the object is 2795 02:14:44,649 --> 02:14:41,329 turning when it could very well be just 2796 02:14:46,150 --> 02:14:44,659 the the gimbal itself is turning the 2797 02:14:49,030 --> 02:14:46,160 object is not turning 2798 02:14:52,270 --> 02:14:49,040 it's just the you know the the gimbal 2799 02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:52,280 FLIR is turning but anyway after that 2800 02:14:58,920 --> 02:14:56,090 footage just maybe I'm saying there's 2801 02:15:02,050 --> 02:14:58,930 the possibility of the pilot then saying 2802 02:15:03,070 --> 02:15:02,060 yeah that f-18 sure did look strange in 2803 02:15:08,050 --> 02:15:03,080 the FLIR didn't it 2804 02:15:09,370 --> 02:15:08,060 right I mean I mean what if it's in 2805 02:15:11,530 --> 02:15:09,380 other words it was fake and they're 2806 02:15:13,930 --> 02:15:11,540 perpetrating a fraud and no wow what now 2807 02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:13,940 the footage is real but you know you 2808 02:15:20,530 --> 02:15:16,730 don't hear the before and after you know 2809 02:15:25,540 --> 02:15:20,540 the possibility before you know the clip 2810 02:15:28,690 --> 02:15:25,550 before the clip starts okay man let's go 2811 02:15:33,220 --> 02:15:28,700 ahead and vector in on these f-18s in 2812 02:15:34,990 --> 02:15:33,230 this in this dollar you know even like 2813 02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:35,000 you're a civilian right you don't even 2814 02:15:40,060 --> 02:15:38,570 know how pilots talk but you know right 2815 02:15:41,290 --> 02:15:40,070 now you're demonstrating that you know 2816 02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:41,300 they should be speaking in a 2817 02:15:45,430 --> 02:15:42,800 professional manner and they'd be 2818 02:15:47,110 --> 02:15:45,440 talking about like you know come left 2819 02:15:49,570 --> 02:15:47,120 turn heading you know zero nine zero 2820 02:15:51,220 --> 02:15:49,580 blah blah blah you know you know I'm 2821 02:15:52,930 --> 02:15:51,230 going in you're out you know I'm in 2822 02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:52,940 you're off you know they're using 2823 02:15:58,810 --> 02:15:55,760 military commands like what bothered me 2824 02:16:01,510 --> 02:15:58,820 about that footage is the pilots are 2825 02:16:04,090 --> 02:16:01,520 very very casual they're not using 2826 02:16:06,940 --> 02:16:04,100 professional vernacular they're going 2827 02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:06,950 dude like that you know like it's just 2828 02:16:10,510 --> 02:16:09,410 it's not it just something's not right 2829 02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:10,520 about that 2830 02:16:17,740 --> 02:16:15,170 like if you're my wingman and you know 2831 02:16:19,690 --> 02:16:17,750 pick a call sign you know what would I 2832 02:16:24,220 --> 02:16:19,700 call if you had to have a callsign Jim 2833 02:16:28,210 --> 02:16:24,230 what would it be my callsign would be a 2834 02:16:30,610 --> 02:16:28,220 coyote all right okay okay 2835 02:16:32,380 --> 02:16:30,620 coyote I'm going in you know stay high 2836 02:16:34,510 --> 02:16:32,390 boom you know and then okay I'm pulling 2837 02:16:36,010 --> 02:16:34,520 on you know I got I got 3G I got into 2838 02:16:38,860 --> 02:16:36,020 the camera foot you know I'm talking I'm 2839 02:16:40,900 --> 02:16:38,870 talking to you about what I'm doing and 2840 02:16:42,820 --> 02:16:40,910 what I'm gonna do next so you can 2841 02:16:45,130 --> 02:16:42,830 respond right and you're gonna say I'm 2842 02:16:46,630 --> 02:16:45,140 staying high you know okay Raven I got 2843 02:16:49,750 --> 02:16:46,640 you I got jumped you know I got you my 2844 02:16:50,500 --> 02:16:49,760 and my I got shown 12 o'clock okay it's 2845 02:16:52,230 --> 02:16:50,510 moving left 2846 02:16:54,371 --> 02:16:52,240 you know right you know whatever 2847 02:16:57,310 --> 02:16:54,381 you're gonna be you're gonna be speaking 2848 02:16:59,320 --> 02:16:57,320 to me in a jargon that's probably akin 2849 02:16:59,530 --> 02:16:59,330 to eight air combat right we're going to 2850 02:17:01,959 --> 02:16:59,540 be 2851 02:17:04,089 --> 02:17:01,969 using air combat commands probably right 2852 02:17:06,070 --> 02:17:04,099 these guys are like what bothers me 2853 02:17:07,419 --> 02:17:06,080 about the footage and I haven't heard I 2854 02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:07,429 haven't spoken any other pilots about 2855 02:17:11,469 --> 02:17:09,679 this so maybe it's perfectly normal now 2856 02:17:15,730 --> 02:17:11,479 in the Navy but because it's been thirty 2857 02:17:17,740 --> 02:17:15,740 years from me right but dude what is 2858 02:17:19,419 --> 02:17:17,750 that like you know doesn't make any 2859 02:17:21,099 --> 02:17:19,429 sense to me it's bothering me 2860 02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:21,109 that whole thing bothers me what's 2861 02:17:26,049 --> 02:17:23,090 bothering you about it are you saying 2862 02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:26,059 are you suggesting that the those aren't 2863 02:17:31,269 --> 02:17:28,250 pilots and that's those are actors it's 2864 02:17:33,599 --> 02:17:31,279 Doug I'm not saying that I'm just saying 2865 02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:33,609 that their vernacular is awful loose and 2866 02:17:37,839 --> 02:17:36,080 maybe that's the way it is I'm not 2867 02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:37,849 saying that they're not that's not real 2868 02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:40,160 footage I can't say that for a fact 2869 02:17:46,809 --> 02:17:42,170 right I'm just saying it's a little it's 2870 02:17:48,429 --> 02:17:46,819 off that's a little off and what again 2871 02:17:50,290 --> 02:17:48,439 maybe maybe in that sort of a situation 2872 02:17:54,549 --> 02:17:50,300 but see here's the thing about Navy 2873 02:17:57,759 --> 02:17:54,559 pilots okay they we train from beginning 2874 02:18:00,160 --> 02:17:57,769 to end literally every flight from first 2875 02:18:02,769 --> 02:18:00,170 primary flight through advanced drug 2876 02:18:05,530 --> 02:18:02,779 training every single flight is all 2877 02:18:07,299 --> 02:18:05,540 about pressure emergencies the first 2878 02:18:08,860 --> 02:18:07,309 thing I do you take off and the 2879 02:18:10,240 --> 02:18:08,870 instructor fails your landing gear and 2880 02:18:11,860 --> 02:18:10,250 says okay you got fill landing gear and 2881 02:18:13,690 --> 02:18:11,870 did it and you've got to go through the 2882 02:18:15,099 --> 02:18:13,700 procedure whole flight for an hour and a 2883 02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:15,109 half or whatever it is every training 2884 02:18:19,150 --> 02:18:16,490 mission you do hundreds of these things 2885 02:18:20,769 --> 02:18:19,160 it's just one failure after the next and 2886 02:18:23,830 --> 02:18:20,779 one emergency after the next and 2887 02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:23,840 everything's very precise and there's no 2888 02:18:28,059 --> 02:18:26,450 room for a casual conversation and 2889 02:18:30,250 --> 02:18:28,069 nobody taught you it like there's no 2890 02:18:31,660 --> 02:18:30,260 chatter hey how's your day going up 2891 02:18:35,410 --> 02:18:31,670 there buddy you know there's none of 2892 02:18:36,790 --> 02:18:35,420 that stuff right but you know again it's 2893 02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:36,800 been 30 years and maybe things have 2894 02:18:41,379 --> 02:18:39,679 changed 50 so with the budget cuts 2895 02:18:45,070 --> 02:18:41,389 they've kind of gotten loose I don't 2896 02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:45,080 know I don't know there's something 2897 02:18:52,809 --> 02:18:49,130 whacky about that that's Steve Steve 2898 02:18:56,589 --> 02:18:52,819 this is fade to black this is me Jimmy 2899 02:18:59,320 --> 02:18:56,599 yeah really say what are you trying to 2900 02:19:02,320 --> 02:18:59,330 say here see are you saying that you you 2901 02:19:04,929 --> 02:19:02,330 you watch the footage the first time you 2902 02:19:07,570 --> 02:19:04,939 listen to this and you rolled your eyes 2903 02:19:10,480 --> 02:19:07,580 is that what you're saying that's what 2904 02:19:12,299 --> 02:19:10,490 I'm saying yeah I rolled my and and not 2905 02:19:13,979 --> 02:19:12,309 it's not at the visual 2906 02:19:15,870 --> 02:19:13,989 because the visuals sort of been you 2907 02:19:18,780 --> 02:19:15,880 know sort of an oculus sort of but it's 2908 02:19:19,679 --> 02:19:18,790 interesting but the yeah the the chatter 2909 02:19:21,839 --> 02:19:19,689 is wrong 2910 02:19:24,990 --> 02:19:21,849 it just doesn't it's it's just wrong to 2911 02:19:26,910 --> 02:19:25,000 me feels gonna got levels wrong then 2912 02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:26,920 again I could be wrong I could be wrong 2913 02:19:32,250 --> 02:19:29,290 but you know I don't like you know yeah 2914 02:19:34,500 --> 02:19:32,260 I don't know the the BS meter is kind of 2915 02:19:37,799 --> 02:19:34,510 kind of at a half or maybe even seventy 2916 02:19:38,850 --> 02:19:37,809 percent right now with that but again I 2917 02:19:40,189 --> 02:19:38,860 could be wrong 2918 02:19:46,349 --> 02:19:40,199 [Applause] 2919 02:19:49,530 --> 02:19:46,359 the I I agree 2920 02:19:52,590 --> 02:19:49,540 but this is why I agree not necessarily 2921 02:19:54,030 --> 02:19:52,600 for your reasons I go back to but it's 2922 02:19:57,870 --> 02:19:54,040 interesting that we came to the same 2923 02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:57,880 conclusion though but I go back to what 2924 02:20:02,790 --> 02:19:59,920 I want to know what the pilots were 2925 02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:02,800 talking about and saying before and 2926 02:20:09,479 --> 02:20:04,720 after the footage I want to know exactly 2927 02:20:12,929 --> 02:20:09,489 what was going on there and that would 2928 02:20:15,660 --> 02:20:12,939 then lean to the conversation that was 2929 02:20:18,269 --> 02:20:15,670 happening in the middle right where and 2930 02:20:21,479 --> 02:20:18,279 and with with the visuals that were 2931 02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:21,489 going on and and the fact that that part 2932 02:20:26,010 --> 02:20:23,439 of the footage has not been released 2933 02:20:27,719 --> 02:20:26,020 that's where I start to question things 2934 02:20:30,990 --> 02:20:27,729 because I think everything would be 2935 02:20:35,309 --> 02:20:31,000 answered either it's it's it's et and 2936 02:20:37,530 --> 02:20:35,319 it's UFOs or it is not right but the 2937 02:20:41,250 --> 02:20:37,540 questions might be answered and they've 2938 02:20:44,899 --> 02:20:41,260 left that hanging out there and that's I 2939 02:20:47,729 --> 02:20:44,909 know that there's more footage you know 2940 02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:47,739 there's more to the clip than what we 2941 02:20:53,340 --> 02:20:50,710 are seeing you know it's it's longer and 2942 02:20:54,990 --> 02:20:53,350 it's more complete they release this 2943 02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:55,000 little tiny clip in the middle with 2944 02:20:59,219 --> 02:20:56,770 these guys going wow what the bleep is 2945 02:21:03,710 --> 02:20:59,229 that well you know what Jim I just had 2946 02:21:06,929 --> 02:21:03,720 an obvious thought okay so let's say you 2947 02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:06,939 record this information right you want 2948 02:21:12,269 --> 02:21:09,520 to disclose to the public but the the 2949 02:21:14,639 --> 02:21:12,279 the radio chatter is is confidential 2950 02:21:17,670 --> 02:21:14,649 it's it's it's classified okay maybe 2951 02:21:19,260 --> 02:21:17,680 you're talking about something your 2952 02:21:20,819 --> 02:21:19,270 aircraft is doing that it's not supposed 2953 02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:20,829 to be able to do or something that that 2954 02:21:25,740 --> 02:21:24,010 thing is doing so what if what if you 2955 02:21:25,980 --> 02:21:25,750 want to bring this information out but 2956 02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:25,990 you 2957 02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:29,110 have to dub the footage right right 2958 02:21:34,020 --> 02:21:31,450 isn't what water it down so the public 2959 02:21:36,511 --> 02:21:34,030 can wrap their minds around what if the 2960 02:21:38,100 --> 02:21:36,521 chatter is just information that you and 2961 02:21:39,540 --> 02:21:38,110 I wouldn't necessarily be able to 2962 02:21:41,070 --> 02:21:39,550 discern you know it means the general 2963 02:21:43,740 --> 02:21:41,080 public wouldn't be able to discern right 2964 02:21:45,900 --> 02:21:43,750 you know I mean so they so they dub it 2965 02:21:49,381 --> 02:21:45,910 may be that remember how when this first 2966 02:21:51,930 --> 02:21:49,391 came out John Lear called BS on it right 2967 02:21:56,580 --> 02:21:51,940 remember that yes he said and it was 2968 02:21:57,480 --> 02:21:56,590 about the static behind the chatter that 2969 02:21:59,850 --> 02:21:57,490 he didn't like 2970 02:22:01,801 --> 02:21:59,860 but there's another pilot because he's 2971 02:22:04,770 --> 02:22:01,811 you know he's an accomplished pilot he's 2972 02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:04,780 blowing everything whoo-hoo it didn't 2973 02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:07,450 ring true with and for me it's not the 2974 02:22:12,211 --> 02:22:09,370 static but it's just the wording is 2975 02:22:14,011 --> 02:22:12,221 wrong so maybe let's let's say the 2976 02:22:16,171 --> 02:22:14,021 footage is real but what if they had to 2977 02:22:19,290 --> 02:22:16,181 dub it maybe that's what happened I 2978 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:19,300 don't know but you know how do you if 2979 02:22:23,330 --> 02:22:20,650 you're trying to come out with the truth 2980 02:22:25,890 --> 02:22:23,340 you don't necessarily want to do with 2981 02:22:27,360 --> 02:22:25,900 fraudulent information or like 2982 02:22:29,190 --> 02:22:27,370 half-truths you know what I mean right 2983 02:22:30,540 --> 02:22:29,200 if you're trying to you're trying to get 2984 02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:30,550 people on your side it's kind of like 2985 02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:33,130 the the mylar balloon you know that to 2986 02:22:37,620 --> 02:22:35,050 the Stars Academy threw up there is an 2987 02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:37,630 authentic UFO you know once you do that 2988 02:22:43,350 --> 02:22:41,200 once it's discovered you know your 2989 02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:43,360 credibility is trashed and that's a 2990 02:22:46,890 --> 02:22:45,010 shame you know because especially if 2991 02:22:49,171 --> 02:22:46,900 you're up to something good and it just 2992 02:22:52,100 --> 02:22:49,181 you got one pulled over yeah you know I 2993 02:22:57,381 --> 02:22:52,110 think that's what happened to our friend 2994 02:23:00,780 --> 02:22:57,391 the the other part of it because 2995 02:23:02,250 --> 02:23:00,790 credibility is everything in the UFO 2996 02:23:04,980 --> 02:23:02,260 community you've been you've been 2997 02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:04,990 fighting the good fight for nearly 20 2998 02:23:14,750 --> 02:23:08,530 years now Steve and you know you've seen 2999 02:23:20,730 --> 02:23:14,760 so many experiencers eyewitnesses videos 3000 02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:20,740 videographers authors come and go right 3001 02:23:28,711 --> 02:23:26,080 and once our credibility is blown with 3002 02:23:30,990 --> 02:23:28,721 this community you're done you're toast 3003 02:23:32,220 --> 02:23:31,000 you're done I don't you don't get a 3004 02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:32,230 second crack at it 3005 02:23:38,969 --> 02:23:36,160 and when it comes to this the stuff with 3006 02:23:42,329 --> 02:23:38,979 the Pentagon and TTS a 3007 02:23:44,639 --> 02:23:42,339 when you say that the government the 3008 02:23:47,099 --> 02:23:44,649 Pentagon has released these videos to T 3009 02:23:48,749 --> 02:23:47,109 TSA when it turns out that the videos 3010 02:23:50,309 --> 02:23:48,759 have been out there on the web and and 3011 02:23:52,289 --> 02:23:50,319 they've been analyzed and looked at and 3012 02:23:56,029 --> 02:23:52,299 talked about in the bug or whatever for 3013 02:23:58,769 --> 02:23:56,039 some of it for a very very long time 3014 02:24:01,829 --> 02:23:58,779 well how do you recover from that what 3015 02:24:04,709 --> 02:24:01,839 what does TSA do to get their feet back 3016 02:24:07,409 --> 02:24:04,719 on the ground and get the the confidence 3017 02:24:08,819 --> 02:24:07,419 back from the UFO community yeah you 3018 02:24:11,010 --> 02:24:08,829 know you haven't heard a statement from 3019 02:24:13,979 --> 02:24:11,020 them about that and it's a shame the 3020 02:24:15,269 --> 02:24:13,989 first thing you know damage control the 3021 02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:15,279 first thing that should have happened as 3022 02:24:18,479 --> 02:24:16,930 soon as that information came out about 3023 02:24:21,029 --> 02:24:18,489 the mylar balloons they should have come 3024 02:24:24,090 --> 02:24:21,039 out and made a statement well they they 3025 02:24:26,309 --> 02:24:24,100 tactically they technically did they 3026 02:24:28,409 --> 02:24:26,319 said was it yeah they said as some 3027 02:24:30,149 --> 02:24:28,419 boilerplate thing you know well we 3028 02:24:32,999 --> 02:24:30,159 didn't know it was somebody else in the 3029 02:24:40,739 --> 02:24:33,009 organization and it was just put up 3030 02:24:43,469 --> 02:24:40,749 there and it was just you know when I 3031 02:24:45,359 --> 02:24:43,479 was well thought out by oh you got it 3032 02:24:47,099 --> 02:24:45,369 you got to accept response you got to 3033 02:24:50,159 --> 02:24:47,109 first of all take responsibility for the 3034 02:24:53,010 --> 02:24:50,169 mistakes right and that should have come 3035 02:24:54,479 --> 02:24:53,020 from Tom DeLonge you know he should have 3036 02:24:56,519 --> 02:24:54,489 come out with a statement I am so 3037 02:24:58,319 --> 02:24:56,529 embarrassed about this this is what 3038 02:25:00,599 --> 02:24:58,329 happened this is exactly what happened 3039 02:25:04,279 --> 02:25:00,609 it'll never happen again and here's why 3040 02:25:06,659 --> 02:25:04,289 and blah blah blah you know own up 3041 02:25:09,539 --> 02:25:06,669 though if you want to stay in business 3042 02:25:12,539 --> 02:25:09,549 you know yeah you're right man so many 3043 02:25:14,719 --> 02:25:12,549 people come into the UFO world thinking 3044 02:25:18,420 --> 02:25:14,729 they're gonna perpetrate this hoax and 3045 02:25:21,300 --> 02:25:18,430 never get caught yeah and it works for a 3046 02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:21,310 while but eventually you know they crash 3047 02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:22,930 and burn and they come and they go and 3048 02:25:26,789 --> 02:25:24,850 they crash and they burn the ones that 3049 02:25:30,389 --> 02:25:26,799 stay forever are the ones like Jim Marrs 3050 02:25:33,599 --> 02:25:30,399 you know super integrity always well 3051 02:25:37,859 --> 02:25:33,609 researched and no you know no 3052 02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:37,869 BS right right the guy's a yeah well you 3053 02:25:42,649 --> 02:25:39,520 know you look at Dolan or Stanton 3054 02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:42,659 Friedman or Linda Moulton Howe you know 3055 02:25:59,859 --> 02:25:44,560 that 3056 02:26:04,000 --> 02:25:59,869 back to somebody like Bob Lazar who 3057 02:26:08,950 --> 02:26:04,010 certainly rode through a pretty good 3058 02:26:12,250 --> 02:26:08,960 thunderstorm of being debunked and and 3059 02:26:14,859 --> 02:26:12,260 questioned and you know schooling 3060 02:26:19,090 --> 02:26:14,869 everything about him was was brought 3061 02:26:21,550 --> 02:26:19,100 forward to the point where the brothel 3062 02:26:24,729 --> 02:26:21,560 right I mean everything was brought the 3063 02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:24,739 boy baby here yeah poor guy and you know 3064 02:26:30,130 --> 02:26:28,250 yeah very bright and you know he was 3065 02:26:32,979 --> 02:26:30,140 smart about it though he said you know 3066 02:26:35,710 --> 02:26:32,989 what I'm not even into this this is 3067 02:26:38,349 --> 02:26:35,720 totally not for me I'm I'm gonna go make 3068 02:26:40,210 --> 02:26:38,359 my money elsewhere you know he never 3069 02:26:41,950 --> 02:26:40,220 went at it as if he was going to get on 3070 02:26:45,160 --> 02:26:41,960 the circuit a speaker for the rest of 3071 02:26:47,740 --> 02:26:45,170 his life he gay he told his story that's 3072 02:26:49,809 --> 02:26:47,750 what I love about Lazar is you know I 3073 02:26:51,460 --> 02:26:49,819 think he's he was totally legit 3074 02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:51,470 what I love about him is he just told 3075 02:26:54,189 --> 02:26:52,850 his story and said hey believe me or you 3076 02:26:54,809 --> 02:26:54,199 don't believe me I don't care I'm out of 3077 02:27:04,300 --> 02:26:54,819 here 3078 02:27:07,809 --> 02:27:04,310 others were he didn't come and go he 3079 02:27:11,649 --> 02:27:07,819 well physically he did but today he is 3080 02:27:13,330 --> 02:27:11,659 held up high in the UFO community there 3081 02:27:15,309 --> 02:27:13,340 are still you know there still are those 3082 02:27:20,500 --> 02:27:15,319 out there that that want to question him 3083 02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:20,510 but today he is he's the guy and I man 3084 02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:23,810 nobody impresses me like Bob Lazar and I 3085 02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:27,770 know I've gone back Steve repeatedly I 3086 02:27:34,210 --> 02:27:32,000 have forced Rita to analyze all of his 3087 02:27:36,969 --> 02:27:34,220 videos all of his presentations to go 3088 02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:36,979 through this with me and every two hours 3089 02:27:42,969 --> 02:27:40,850 and hours right now but just fascinating 3090 02:27:44,830 --> 02:27:42,979 it really is I've tried to trip them up 3091 02:27:48,819 --> 02:27:44,840 I've tried to trip them up and I can't 3092 02:27:53,380 --> 02:27:48,829 do it III can't and here we are today 3093 02:27:58,030 --> 02:27:53,390 this is 2018 and we're talking 3094 02:28:04,149 --> 02:27:58,040 nearly 30 years of Bob Lazar where I 3095 02:28:06,910 --> 02:28:04,159 think his his his stories as is as 3096 02:28:11,250 --> 02:28:06,920 strong today as it ever has been and and 3097 02:28:14,860 --> 02:28:11,260 here he is and we we hold him up and and 3098 02:28:17,110 --> 02:28:14,870 which goes back to TTS a you know how do 3099 02:28:21,309 --> 02:28:17,120 you recover from these mistakes I I 3100 02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:21,319 think that the other part for TTS a and 3101 02:28:29,130 --> 02:28:24,080 and I'm just gonna say this there's 3102 02:28:34,210 --> 02:28:29,140 silence on the matter is is deafening 3103 02:28:36,610 --> 02:28:34,220 crushing crushing what are you gonna do 3104 02:28:38,200 --> 02:28:36,620 you know you know come out and ask for 3105 02:28:42,099 --> 02:28:38,210 more money you know at that point what 3106 02:28:44,590 --> 02:28:42,109 do you do you know so you know they're 3107 02:28:47,229 --> 02:28:44,600 gonna have to something legit is gonna 3108 02:28:49,540 --> 02:28:47,239 have to come out of Bigelow that's gonna 3109 02:28:51,340 --> 02:28:49,550 somehow tie in with TTS a and save them 3110 02:28:53,679 --> 02:28:51,350 otherwise I don't think they're gonna 3111 02:28:57,639 --> 02:28:53,689 last much longer you think you're 3112 02:29:02,229 --> 02:28:57,649 already talking past tense yeah I mean 3113 02:29:05,849 --> 02:29:02,239 well kudos again I think TTS a has been 3114 02:29:09,399 --> 02:29:05,859 used as a I think that Tom DeLonge as 3115 02:29:12,700 --> 02:29:09,409 nice of a guy I think he's been used by 3116 02:29:15,910 --> 02:29:12,710 the same people who are you know he's 3117 02:29:18,280 --> 02:29:15,920 being been used unwittingly by the same 3118 02:29:21,610 --> 02:29:18,290 people who are using Elizondo wittingly 3119 02:29:23,889 --> 02:29:21,620 you know name it's the same you know 3120 02:29:25,719 --> 02:29:23,899 puppetmaster using them both to do 3121 02:29:27,700 --> 02:29:25,729 whatever whatever they're doing I don't 3122 02:29:29,500 --> 02:29:27,710 know if it's soft disclosure or a 3123 02:29:32,830 --> 02:29:29,510 testing of the waters to see how the 3124 02:29:34,630 --> 02:29:32,840 public responds you know or changing who 3125 02:29:36,389 --> 02:29:34,640 knows what's coming next 3126 02:29:39,550 --> 02:29:36,399 bottom line is it's coming from a 3127 02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:39,560 clandestine world and when it does you 3128 02:29:42,010 --> 02:29:40,880 know what when that's the case when 3129 02:29:43,960 --> 02:29:42,020 you're dealing with the clandestine 3130 02:29:46,660 --> 02:29:43,970 environment you can't take anything at 3131 02:29:49,149 --> 02:29:46,670 face value they're thinking two or three 3132 02:29:52,120 --> 02:29:49,159 or four steps ahead of you already so 3133 02:29:54,219 --> 02:29:52,130 you know you're at a disadvantage well 3134 02:29:59,010 --> 02:29:54,229 you know when I when I talked to Tom on 3135 02:30:03,070 --> 02:29:59,020 the phone nobody nicer cooler more 3136 02:30:06,541 --> 02:30:03,080 enthusiastic about the subject than Tom 3137 02:30:08,251 --> 02:30:06,551 I mean a very cool likable guy 3138 02:30:10,741 --> 02:30:08,261 I mean I could seriously just hang out 3139 02:30:13,831 --> 02:30:10,751 with him and talk music and UFOs and and 3140 02:30:16,171 --> 02:30:13,841 guitars all day and all night yeah yeah 3141 02:30:18,331 --> 02:30:16,181 I'm serious enough thanks Paul you know 3142 02:30:20,581 --> 02:30:18,341 what I mean he's he yeah he's a great 3143 02:30:23,871 --> 02:30:20,591 guy and he was a great music is a great 3144 02:30:28,230 --> 02:30:26,371 and he called me up one day and we were 3145 02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:28,240 sitting here I was I was in the bunker 3146 02:30:35,131 --> 02:30:31,650 and I said dude man I just got a Jackson 3147 02:30:36,900 --> 02:30:35,141 guitar right and he goes dude man you 3148 02:30:39,690 --> 02:30:36,910 always loved those pointy headstock 3149 02:30:41,940 --> 02:30:39,700 guitars and you know cracked-out me 3150 02:30:43,951 --> 02:30:41,950 really dude I asked for two I mean I 3151 02:30:46,831 --> 02:30:43,961 just totally asked for but we laughed 3152 02:30:47,780 --> 02:30:46,841 together and I'm just saying that he's a 3153 02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:47,790 cool guy 3154 02:30:55,831 --> 02:30:52,330 yeah these mistakes that have happened 3155 02:30:57,451 --> 02:30:55,841 wooof I don't know man I don't know I 3156 02:30:59,701 --> 02:30:57,461 don't know I don't know what the future 3157 02:31:01,970 --> 02:30:59,711 is when it comes to that well what are 3158 02:31:04,320 --> 02:31:01,980 you going to be speaking about at 3159 02:31:06,980 --> 02:31:04,330 contact in the desert we're almost out 3160 02:31:08,820 --> 02:31:06,990 of time here I can't believe it oh wow 3161 02:31:11,161 --> 02:31:08,830 yeah thank you for asking 3162 02:31:13,470 --> 02:31:11,171 it's gonna be about et contact and 3163 02:31:17,671 --> 02:31:13,480 evolution of human of the human mind 3164 02:31:21,211 --> 02:31:17,681 basically so it's Sunday morning at 7:00 3165 02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:21,221 a.m. and I you know I I had the same gig 3166 02:31:25,921 --> 02:31:24,370 two years ago when I spoke there and I 3167 02:31:27,961 --> 02:31:25,931 thought oh they'll be like three people 3168 02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:27,971 in the room the place was packed right 3169 02:31:31,801 --> 02:31:29,740 the room was packed 3170 02:31:35,041 --> 02:31:31,811 you know people that go to contact go 3171 02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:35,051 for the answers and you know I'm going 3172 02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:37,690 to be putting an emphasis on experiences 3173 02:31:45,480 --> 02:31:42,490 and contactees and abductees and and 3174 02:31:48,631 --> 02:31:45,490 those people resonate you know what I 3175 02:31:50,701 --> 02:31:48,641 mean they and especially the ones are 3176 02:31:53,341 --> 02:31:50,711 sort of now just now awakening to it 3177 02:31:54,810 --> 02:31:53,351 they want to get answers and those 3178 02:31:56,220 --> 02:31:54,820 people are out there and probably hear 3179 02:31:56,970 --> 02:31:56,230 my voice and say I'm gonna be there for 3180 02:31:58,560 --> 02:31:56,980 this one be 3181 02:32:01,470 --> 02:31:58,570 I've been putting some time into it I 3182 02:32:03,511 --> 02:32:01,480 hopefully hopefully will be able to pass 3183 02:32:07,140 --> 02:32:03,521 some information that people find useful 3184 02:32:09,180 --> 02:32:07,150 and and it's a good a good presentation 3185 02:32:11,041 --> 02:32:09,190 well you're going to be you're going to 3186 02:32:13,711 --> 02:32:11,051 be getting out there Thursday so we'll 3187 02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:13,721 see you on Thursday 3188 02:32:17,161 --> 02:32:15,730 the cool thing is we get to hang out 3189 02:32:21,900 --> 02:32:17,171 because we're going to be setting up our 3190 02:32:27,020 --> 02:32:21,910 booths next to each other then right 3191 02:32:30,331 --> 02:32:27,030 next to that is a bar so there you see 3192 02:32:33,331 --> 02:32:30,341 Reid and I will see you Thursday 3193 02:32:35,850 --> 02:32:33,341 afternoon look forward to it thank you 3194 02:32:37,621 --> 02:32:35,860 so much Steve all the best thank say for 3195 02:32:42,810 --> 02:32:37,631 us to read it for me she's right down 3196 02:32:45,780 --> 02:32:42,820 the hall I'll talk to you Steve Murillo 3197 02:32:47,761 --> 02:32:45,790 this is fade to black I am your host 3198 02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:47,771 Jimmy Church now I'm gonna take a quick 3199 02:32:51,421 --> 02:32:49,450 break I'm gonna come back and take all 3200 02:32:54,001 --> 02:32:51,431 of your phone calls next 3201 02:32:55,381 --> 02:32:54,011 this is fade to black I'm your host Amy 3202 02:32:59,011 --> 02:32:55,391 Church on the game change your network 3203 02:32:59,660 --> 02:32:59,021 and kg RA the planet I'll be right back 3204 02:33:07,870 --> 02:32:59,670 stay with 3205 02:33:19,850 --> 02:33:16,270 [Music] 3206 02:33:25,350 --> 02:33:22,530 Viveca box here and you are listening to 3207 02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:25,360 my boy Jimmy Church on Jimmy Church 3208 02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:30,810 radio calm this my 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order 3278 02:36:45,149 --> 02:36:34,870 your nature's use RSS at nature's youth 3279 02:36:59,679 --> 02:36:48,849 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3280 02:37:04,420 --> 02:36:59,689 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 3281 02:37:04,430 --> 02:37:15,900 [Music] 3282 02:37:21,581 --> 02:37:19,091 all right welcome back fade to black i'm 3283 02:37:28,780 --> 02:37:21,591 your host jimmy church open lines right 3284 02:37:31,570 --> 02:37:28,790 now 3 to 3 8 2 5 5 0 4 5 4 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 3285 02:37:36,370 --> 02:37:31,580 6 9 5 3286 02:37:40,331 --> 02:37:36,380 I wanted to know Rita and I saw a movie 3287 02:37:44,740 --> 02:37:40,341 believe it or not with coast to coast 3288 02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:44,750 all weekend and fade to black all last 3289 02:37:51,341 --> 02:37:47,290 week and I know I wrote this article 3290 02:37:55,301 --> 02:37:51,351 about our schedule over the next month 3291 02:37:58,990 --> 02:37:55,311 it's it's pretty insane and no time off 3292 02:38:01,541 --> 02:37:59,000 but Rita and I managed to see a movie 3293 02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:01,551 this weekend that you've got to check 3294 02:38:07,900 --> 02:38:02,170 out 3295 02:38:11,051 --> 02:38:07,910 it's called annihilation and if you 3296 02:38:16,810 --> 02:38:11,061 haven't seen it yet 3297 02:38:23,610 --> 02:38:16,820 the the script the way that it is 3298 02:38:29,860 --> 02:38:23,620 written the the storyline behind it 3299 02:38:34,480 --> 02:38:29,870 completely 100% original now it it's 3300 02:38:39,850 --> 02:38:34,490 stars Jennifer Jason Leigh Natalie 3301 02:38:43,810 --> 02:38:39,860 Portman and it's it's it's based on a 3302 02:38:45,850 --> 02:38:43,820 novel by a Jeff Vandermeer and Gina 3303 02:38:50,440 --> 02:38:45,860 Rodriguez is in the - she's really 3304 02:38:57,581 --> 02:38:50,450 really good and Oscar Isaac who always 3305 02:39:00,030 --> 02:38:57,591 confused with Adrian Grenier it's it's I 3306 02:39:08,230 --> 02:39:00,040 don't know how to put it into words the 3307 02:39:12,251 --> 02:39:08,240 film is it's about ET now they suggest 3308 02:39:14,980 --> 02:39:12,261 that in the very beginning okay so that 3309 02:39:16,780 --> 02:39:14,990 it could possibly be extraterrestrial 3310 02:39:19,060 --> 02:39:16,790 and so you don't really know but anyway 3311 02:39:22,001 --> 02:39:19,070 it's about this area it's called the 3312 02:39:24,131 --> 02:39:22,011 shimmer and which again is that's all 3313 02:39:26,081 --> 02:39:24,141 set up in the very beginning of the 3314 02:39:27,520 --> 02:39:26,091 movie so I'm not giving anything away 3315 02:39:31,860 --> 02:39:27,530 but 3316 02:39:34,211 --> 02:39:31,870 this is what's trippy about the flick 3317 02:39:41,171 --> 02:39:34,221 totally original script number one 3318 02:39:44,620 --> 02:39:41,181 number two just when you think that it's 3319 02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:44,630 gonna go in one of two directions like 3320 02:39:49,150 --> 02:39:46,730 it's going to be a horror film or that 3321 02:39:51,700 --> 02:39:49,160 it's going to be some et Terminator type 3322 02:39:54,430 --> 02:39:51,710 thing when you think it's going to go in 3323 02:40:01,470 --> 02:39:54,440 in either one of those directions it 3324 02:40:05,560 --> 02:40:01,480 does not scientifically and the the 3325 02:40:08,620 --> 02:40:05,570 biology side of it is pretty pretty 3326 02:40:11,350 --> 02:40:08,630 amazing now this is a film that I'm 3327 02:40:14,620 --> 02:40:11,360 going to highly highly suggest that 3328 02:40:17,440 --> 02:40:14,630 every single one of you watch is number 3329 02:40:22,751 --> 02:40:17,450 one and number two I think it's going to 3330 02:40:26,711 --> 02:40:22,761 be discussed for a while a lot like 3331 02:40:30,820 --> 02:40:26,721 arrival or interstellar or 2001 a Space 3332 02:40:35,230 --> 02:40:30,830 Odyssey I think annihilation the the the 3333 02:40:37,211 --> 02:40:35,240 title of the film is misleading now the 3334 02:40:40,301 --> 02:40:37,221 title of the film at the end of the film 3335 02:40:42,280 --> 02:40:40,311 makes perfect sense but when you see it 3336 02:40:45,091 --> 02:40:42,290 annihilation you know you're gonna 3337 02:40:49,030 --> 02:40:45,101 you're gonna be put off by it 3338 02:40:52,660 --> 02:40:49,040 so don't worry about the title go and 3339 02:40:55,421 --> 02:40:52,670 watch the film it is incredible 3340 02:40:57,551 --> 02:40:55,431 it's absolutely incredible the story and 3341 02:40:58,720 --> 02:40:57,561 everything else there you go alright 3342 02:41:00,421 --> 02:40:58,730 let's go to the phones hi you're live on 3343 02:41:05,171 --> 02:41:00,431 fade to black who's calling 3344 02:41:10,001 --> 02:41:05,181 The Awakening man oh is the awakening 3345 02:41:12,070 --> 02:41:10,011 man this must be Erin alright then be it 3346 02:41:14,501 --> 02:41:12,080 the India house we're we're here we 3347 02:41:16,841 --> 02:41:14,511 figured out a way that Cortana and do 3348 02:41:19,360 --> 02:41:16,851 you sit in the next man we're so excited 3349 02:41:21,280 --> 02:41:19,370 about CIT G CIPD 3350 02:41:23,350 --> 02:41:21,290 Jimmy I just had to call I'm just I'm 3351 02:41:27,011 --> 02:41:23,360 just pumped this is the best event 3352 02:41:28,870 --> 02:41:27,021 leader in the history of ufology and 3353 02:41:30,551 --> 02:41:28,880 consciousness it's not just that it's 3354 02:41:32,350 --> 02:41:30,561 it's an experience people don't 3355 02:41:33,580 --> 02:41:32,360 understand it's not like you're going to 3356 02:41:35,501 --> 02:41:33,590 show up and you're going to sit in a 3357 02:41:37,660 --> 02:41:35,511 room and listen to a lot of intelligent 3358 02:41:39,850 --> 02:41:37,670 people tell great stories this is an 3359 02:41:41,410 --> 02:41:39,860 experience and anybody who doesn't get 3360 02:41:43,300 --> 02:41:41,420 here it's really miss 3361 02:41:45,190 --> 02:41:43,310 the boat do you agree with you of course 3362 02:41:48,010 --> 02:41:45,200 I agree with you but wait a minute you 3363 02:41:49,929 --> 02:41:48,020 said you're in the fader house we're at 3364 02:41:52,390 --> 02:41:49,939 the fader house and it's it right five 3365 02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:52,400 miles down the road we're in a secluded 3366 02:41:58,000 --> 02:41:55,130 gated community so we can't have any CIA 3367 02:41:59,800 --> 02:41:58,010 come and visit us right on so you're 3368 02:42:00,280 --> 02:41:59,810 gonna give the address out over the air 3369 02:42:04,420 --> 02:42:00,290 right now 3370 02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:04,430 no no if we're not okay or not and you 3371 02:42:07,210 --> 02:42:06,050 you're welcome obviously but you need to 3372 02:42:09,070 --> 02:42:07,220 get a hold of me because I have to 3373 02:42:11,800 --> 02:42:09,080 there's like a secret code did you have 3374 02:42:14,679 --> 02:42:11,810 to give the 20 to the gardener literally 3375 02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:14,689 a guard 24/7 at the fence and he will 3376 02:42:17,500 --> 02:42:16,370 not let you in if you're CIA you're not 3377 02:42:20,500 --> 02:42:17,510 getting in and it's what people know 3378 02:42:21,700 --> 02:42:20,510 right now have you have you you know 3379 02:42:30,150 --> 02:42:21,710 what you got to do you got to go up to 3380 02:42:35,500 --> 02:42:33,100 have a few people stop by just just just 3381 02:42:36,300 --> 02:42:35,510 be patient with us who's in the 3382 02:42:45,429 --> 02:42:36,310 background 3383 02:42:47,260 --> 02:42:45,439 okay Cortana Cortana okay sounds like 3384 02:42:52,600 --> 02:42:47,270 you're go back leet appiied already 3385 02:42:53,950 --> 02:42:52,610 I am so like our contact in the desert 3386 02:42:57,700 --> 02:42:53,960 starts right now 3387 02:43:04,090 --> 02:42:57,710 are you guys ready are you guys ready we 3388 02:43:05,890 --> 02:43:04,100 are getting prepped Jimmy are you coming 3389 02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:05,900 Thursday I just want to know you coming 3390 02:43:09,580 --> 02:43:07,760 up Thursday or what's the plan yes I 3391 02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:09,590 will be there Reid and I will be pulling 3392 02:43:14,590 --> 02:43:13,010 in Thursday afternoon okay so just so 3393 02:43:17,580 --> 02:43:14,600 you know if you guys need a place to 3394 02:43:19,750 --> 02:43:17,590 crash you can have the master bedroom 3395 02:43:22,210 --> 02:43:19,760 you're walking we're gonna have a whole 3396 02:43:22,630 --> 02:43:22,220 bar it's just fantastic you're gonna 3397 02:43:24,190 --> 02:43:22,640 love it 3398 02:43:27,250 --> 02:43:24,200 you guys got to show up I'm Thursday and 3399 02:43:28,510 --> 02:43:27,260 I have a 3 CI TD party and then of 3400 02:43:29,679 --> 02:43:28,520 course we'll figure it out Friday 3401 02:43:31,240 --> 02:43:29,689 Saturday night wherever we can put 3402 02:43:33,460 --> 02:43:31,250 together it's all going to happen right 3403 02:43:35,500 --> 02:43:33,470 here well I'm just gonna let you know we 3404 02:43:46,210 --> 02:43:35,510 have the Presidential Suite on the top 3405 02:43:54,370 --> 02:43:46,220 floor $46 are you wearing that it's it's 3406 02:43:54,620 --> 02:43:54,380 pretty sweet oh so now listen Eric I 3407 02:43:58,240 --> 02:43:54,630 just 3408 02:44:01,730 --> 02:43:58,250 wanted to say that I did watch your 3409 02:44:04,639 --> 02:44:01,740 10-minute walkthrough video of the 3410 02:44:08,780 --> 02:44:04,649 Renaissance and that place it's 3411 02:44:10,850 --> 02:44:08,790 beautiful but it's it's big isn't it and 3412 02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:10,860 you know what's awesome is you walk in 3413 02:44:15,620 --> 02:44:14,250 the layout is beautiful all the speakers 3414 02:44:17,990 --> 02:44:15,630 and the conference rooms are on the 3415 02:44:20,780 --> 02:44:18,000 left-hand side and they're all lined up 3416 02:44:23,030 --> 02:44:20,790 on that massive building and so it's 3417 02:44:25,219 --> 02:44:23,040 just so convenient you can go from one 3418 02:44:27,110 --> 02:44:25,229 room to the next room the way this way 3419 02:44:29,420 --> 02:44:27,120 all the tables will be laid out where 3420 02:44:30,889 --> 02:44:29,430 the bar is if you want to go a swim for 3421 02:44:34,190 --> 02:44:30,899 a little while come dance this is 3422 02:44:36,500 --> 02:44:34,200 five-star I mean I'm gonna miss a Joshua 3423 02:44:37,490 --> 02:44:36,510 Tree but this is five-star anybody 3424 02:44:39,230 --> 02:44:37,500 that's coming you're gonna get a 3425 02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:39,240 five-star experience that's a fact 3426 02:44:42,679 --> 02:44:41,130 I'll guarantee that right now now did 3427 02:44:48,020 --> 02:44:42,689 you get a chance to go into the big 3428 02:44:50,120 --> 02:44:48,030 amphitheater I did oh I don't want to 3429 02:44:52,880 --> 02:44:50,130 ruin any surprises but can you tell you 3430 02:44:54,920 --> 02:44:52,890 this is such a bargain and I get nothing 3431 02:44:56,420 --> 02:44:54,930 for saying this other than I know based 3432 02:44:59,030 --> 02:44:56,430 on doing this for over a year now and 3433 02:45:01,520 --> 02:44:59,040 trying to go as many of us as I can this 3434 02:45:03,080 --> 02:45:01,530 is such a fantastic bargain anybody 3435 02:45:05,540 --> 02:45:03,090 that's on the fence is just got to 3436 02:45:08,000 --> 02:45:05,550 figure out a way to get here and if you 3437 02:45:09,410 --> 02:45:08,010 know you need a place to crash your 3438 02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:09,420 sleeping bag we'll figure it out but the 3439 02:45:13,340 --> 02:45:11,610 point is is you just gotta get here 3440 02:45:16,190 --> 02:45:13,350 that's I'm just from serious this is 3441 02:45:18,920 --> 02:45:16,200 just gonna be that bad now I counted 3442 02:45:25,340 --> 02:45:18,930 like I could be wrong but did I count 3443 02:45:32,060 --> 02:45:25,350 like five bars in your walkthrough I did 3444 02:45:34,940 --> 02:45:32,070 right the main bar and then and there's 3445 02:45:36,650 --> 02:45:34,950 a bar at the pool which is just you know 3446 02:45:38,360 --> 02:45:36,660 how can you beat a bar in a pool right 3447 02:45:40,010 --> 02:45:38,370 the mister is blowing so if it's you 3448 02:45:41,960 --> 02:45:40,020 know it is a hundred degrees but it's a 3449 02:45:44,090 --> 02:45:41,970 dry heat and with the misters blowing 3450 02:45:47,320 --> 02:45:44,100 you're indoors it's gonna feel like it's 3451 02:45:50,770 --> 02:45:47,330 gonna feel like a beautiful spring day 3452 02:45:54,740 --> 02:45:50,780 this is why I'm bringing it up because 3453 02:45:59,810 --> 02:45:54,750 Joshua Tree which is an amazing piece of 3454 02:46:03,230 --> 02:45:59,820 land it's great and but there wasn't a 3455 02:46:07,190 --> 02:46:03,240 place to go and hang out you had to 3456 02:46:10,190 --> 02:46:07,200 leave to go and do that right and so 3457 02:46:13,220 --> 02:46:10,200 that that opportunity was not there here 3458 02:46:16,070 --> 02:46:13,230 there is a place for everybody to get 3459 02:46:19,640 --> 02:46:16,080 together in in in different areas and 3460 02:46:22,580 --> 02:46:19,650 spots around where we can just just hang 3461 02:46:23,960 --> 02:46:22,590 out and talk and we don't have to we 3462 02:46:25,730 --> 02:46:23,970 don't have to leave and that's why I'm 3463 02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:25,740 bringing it up I'm not bringing it up 3464 02:46:29,421 --> 02:46:27,120 well of course we're going to be 3465 02:46:32,150 --> 02:46:29,431 drinking and conversing and having fun 3466 02:46:34,131 --> 02:46:32,160 but there wasn't any place to do that 3467 02:46:38,180 --> 02:46:34,141 there wasn't any facilities and the 3468 02:46:43,040 --> 02:46:38,190 other thing is over at Joshua Tree you 3469 02:46:45,110 --> 02:46:43,050 you had the the food trucks but you only 3470 02:46:46,850 --> 02:46:45,120 had the cafeteria there so you always 3471 02:46:50,360 --> 02:46:46,860 had to leave the grounds there wasn't 3472 02:46:54,440 --> 02:46:50,370 any place to just go kick back sit down 3473 02:46:56,511 --> 02:46:54,450 relax and and and have you know a glass 3474 02:46:59,540 --> 02:46:56,521 of water and or you know or something 3475 02:47:02,060 --> 02:46:59,550 there were we didn't have that over in 3476 02:47:03,770 --> 02:47:02,070 Joshua Tree here we do have that and I 3477 02:47:07,671 --> 02:47:03,780 think that's important especially when 3478 02:47:11,600 --> 02:47:07,681 you have five thousand people yeah in 3479 02:47:13,881 --> 02:47:11,610 Victoria and she's gentleman is his name 3480 02:47:16,790 --> 02:47:13,891 slips me what's his name again Paul yeah 3481 02:47:19,610 --> 02:47:16,800 Paul Andrews yes he's great great people 3482 02:47:21,080 --> 02:47:19,620 and they have done I'm Tania if I had 3483 02:47:22,671 --> 02:47:21,090 their job I would have done it any 3484 02:47:24,680 --> 02:47:22,681 differently they I think they picked the 3485 02:47:27,980 --> 02:47:24,690 perfect spot it's really I mean it's not 3486 02:47:30,261 --> 02:47:27,990 far from the airport I'm excited I mean 3487 02:47:32,060 --> 02:47:30,271 I came out here seriously I'm so jacked 3488 02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:32,070 up I came out here a week ago and I 3489 02:47:35,091 --> 02:47:33,690 stayed out in Joshua Tree because I just 3490 02:47:36,680 --> 02:47:35,101 wanted to feel that vibe but I didn't 3491 02:47:38,270 --> 02:47:36,690 get a chance to really fully experience 3492 02:47:40,220 --> 02:47:38,280 last year because I was mostly at the 3493 02:47:42,530 --> 02:47:40,230 conference listening to the speakers 3494 02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:42,540 which was great but there is a vibe to 3495 02:47:47,030 --> 02:47:43,920 Joshua Tree that is different than 3496 02:47:52,671 --> 02:47:47,040 Indian Wells but Indian Wells has so 3497 02:47:53,930 --> 02:47:52,681 many amazing cultural experiences it's 3498 02:47:56,270 --> 02:47:53,940 going to be just it's gonna be 3499 02:47:57,740 --> 02:47:56,280 incredible to be same now and there's 3500 02:47:59,421 --> 02:47:57,750 this place called the boobs just I gotta 3501 02:48:01,580 --> 02:47:59,431 tell you this there's right across the 3502 02:48:04,280 --> 02:48:01,590 way it's called the boo it's an 3503 02:48:05,450 --> 02:48:04,290 exclusive bar restaurant so if people we 3504 02:48:07,430 --> 02:48:05,460 might be hanging out there if it gets 3505 02:48:09,140 --> 02:48:07,440 too crazy at the Renaissance but it's 3506 02:48:11,750 --> 02:48:09,150 literally right across the way so it's 3507 02:48:18,929 --> 02:48:11,760 pretty fantastic now who are you looking 3508 02:48:24,750 --> 02:48:21,090 they're really you know I like Richard 3509 02:48:26,519 --> 02:48:24,760 Dolan I just personally if if I grew up 3510 02:48:28,109 --> 02:48:26,529 in New York and Richard Dolan looks like 3511 02:48:29,460 --> 02:48:28,119 a schoolmate of mine you'd be one of my 3512 02:48:31,830 --> 02:48:29,470 buddies there's no doubt about it that 3513 02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:31,840 guy is just a sharp dude he's on top of 3514 02:48:36,540 --> 02:48:35,050 things he does his homework I mean yeah 3515 02:48:38,519 --> 02:48:36,550 I'm gonna try hopefully which will come 3516 02:48:39,989 --> 02:48:38,529 over to the Bader house over here and 3517 02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:39,999 hang out with us I mean we really want 3518 02:48:43,920 --> 02:48:42,399 to encourage as many of the speakers in 3519 02:48:46,559 --> 02:48:43,930 the fade or not to come over and hang 3520 02:48:49,050 --> 02:48:46,569 out with us since it's plenty of room we 3521 02:48:50,790 --> 02:48:49,060 could easily fit 60 to 80 people here 3522 02:48:53,099 --> 02:48:50,800 comfortably but you know we can invite 3523 02:48:56,840 --> 02:48:53,109 the whole world but yeah Richard Dolan 3524 02:48:59,819 --> 02:48:56,850 he's a man okay yeah 3525 02:49:02,219 --> 02:48:59,829 gonna be there by the way mamrie Smith 3526 02:49:04,830 --> 02:49:02,229 will be there okay I'll tell you what 3527 02:49:07,529 --> 02:49:04,840 Jimmy you get you get a full-blown 3528 02:49:09,809 --> 02:49:07,539 bottle of Grey Goose Bach I don't care 3529 02:49:11,130 --> 02:49:09,819 what sizes you just if you get any to 3530 02:49:13,739 --> 02:49:11,140 come over and hang out at the Bader 3531 02:49:15,359 --> 02:49:13,749 house that's on the house so just so you 3532 02:49:18,540 --> 02:49:15,369 know I was I liked that guy that guy's 3533 02:49:22,649 --> 02:49:18,550 he's number two in my book yeah yeah 3534 02:49:25,290 --> 02:49:22,659 very excited that he's been added over 3535 02:49:28,349 --> 02:49:25,300 at contacting the desert that was a 3536 02:49:33,330 --> 02:49:28,359 really really really big deal I mean the 3537 02:49:36,029 --> 02:49:33,340 the addition of Emory to a list of 3538 02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:36,039 speakers that's already so complete you 3539 02:49:40,620 --> 02:49:38,319 know how do you take it to 11 you know 3540 02:49:42,779 --> 02:49:40,630 what where do you know God yeah I know 3541 02:49:45,599 --> 02:49:42,789 right I mean you know either I just 3542 02:49:47,189 --> 02:49:45,609 something about that guy intuition it 3543 02:49:50,250 --> 02:49:47,199 since it's just an internal knowing I 3544 02:49:51,599 --> 02:49:50,260 believe him and he's actually sharing 3545 02:49:53,790 --> 02:49:51,609 things that's helping us kind of put 3546 02:49:55,139 --> 02:49:53,800 this puzzle together and I believe the 3547 02:49:57,389 --> 02:49:55,149 guy and I think what he's sharing it 3548 02:50:00,139 --> 02:49:57,399 important and I'm excited about it 3549 02:50:03,300 --> 02:50:00,149 who else is there with you right now 3550 02:50:06,269 --> 02:50:03,310 right now we just got GG and Cortana and 3551 02:50:08,790 --> 02:50:06,279 then Thursday flying in from Florida is 3552 02:50:10,109 --> 02:50:08,800 John Paul can the Brad Olsen's been 3553 02:50:11,849 --> 02:50:10,119 hanging out up there dude they did a 3554 02:50:15,090 --> 02:50:11,859 seminar out there just this last weekend 3555 02:50:16,439 --> 02:50:15,100 and several Karen's gonna come we've got 3556 02:50:18,300 --> 02:50:16,449 a lot of people coming in Thursday so 3557 02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:18,310 we're gonna have a nice little pre CITV 3558 02:50:23,219 --> 02:50:21,010 party here Thursday so you got the 3559 02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:23,229 addresses you know okay I know when 3560 02:50:29,010 --> 02:50:24,880 you're coming what y'all set up okay let 3561 02:50:32,990 --> 02:50:29,020 me talk to Gigi okay yeah make it quick 3562 02:50:41,790 --> 02:50:38,450 Jiji yeah hi there how are you man 3563 02:50:46,080 --> 02:50:41,800 fantastic man gotta give it to Eric man 3564 02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:46,090 he you know we didn't really know if we 3565 02:50:50,070 --> 02:50:47,410 were gonna have a spot this year and 3566 02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:50,080 then uh Eric quite literally saved today 3567 02:50:55,770 --> 02:50:53,410 and it's pretty sick man you know I got 3568 02:51:00,210 --> 02:50:55,780 to say I'm gonna miss Joshua Tree I 3569 02:51:01,860 --> 02:51:00,220 think we you know those uh I don't know 3570 02:51:06,540 --> 02:51:01,870 how we could ever top it at the same 3571 02:51:08,490 --> 02:51:06,550 time it looks like you know you can 3572 02:51:11,040 --> 02:51:08,500 already feel the energy here like 3573 02:51:11,550 --> 02:51:11,050 everyone's saying yeah yeah I'm with you 3574 02:51:14,761 --> 02:51:11,560 on that 3575 02:51:22,290 --> 02:51:14,771 no and for this year at CIT D who do you 3576 02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:22,300 want to go see man you know what well 3577 02:51:26,220 --> 02:51:23,920 you know that's the thing about CIT 3578 02:51:28,290 --> 02:51:26,230 is you know something the last this will 3579 02:51:30,180 --> 02:51:28,300 be my fourth year and you know a lot of 3580 02:51:32,820 --> 02:51:30,190 the times it's great to see the speakers 3581 02:51:36,120 --> 02:51:32,830 obviously but some of the most memorable 3582 02:51:37,950 --> 02:51:36,130 moments that I've had were you know 3583 02:51:39,630 --> 02:51:37,960 conversations in between the events and 3584 02:51:42,270 --> 02:51:39,640 meeting new people because you know 3585 02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:42,280 people do literally come from all over 3586 02:51:47,250 --> 02:51:44,650 the world you know and it's the biggest 3587 02:51:48,900 --> 02:51:47,260 conference of the year and so you know 3588 02:51:50,400 --> 02:51:48,910 without I've just I've seen a lot of 3589 02:51:52,680 --> 02:51:50,410 people they just kind of they show up in 3590 02:51:54,410 --> 02:51:52,690 the morning they had a couple events and 3591 02:51:56,910 --> 02:51:54,420 then they leave you know because they 3592 02:51:59,630 --> 02:51:56,920 maybe they think that's all there is but 3593 02:52:02,340 --> 02:51:59,640 if there's a fact I recommend is to just 3594 02:52:05,190 --> 02:52:02,350 hang around all day just meet everybody 3595 02:52:08,220 --> 02:52:05,200 you can meet and you know everybody is 3596 02:52:10,440 --> 02:52:08,230 resonating on this higher frequency if 3597 02:52:12,870 --> 02:52:10,450 you will you know everybody's already in 3598 02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:12,880 that state and so everybody you meet 3599 02:52:18,330 --> 02:52:16,240 it's it's just a UH I don't know it's 3600 02:52:20,310 --> 02:52:18,340 like the Burning Man for our industry if 3601 02:52:22,350 --> 02:52:20,320 you will maybe not quiet rambunctious 3602 02:52:28,970 --> 02:52:22,360 yeah yeah you're right about that 3603 02:52:37,410 --> 02:52:34,130 no you have brand-new just got released 3604 02:52:39,540 --> 02:52:37,420 you need to watch annihilation let me 3605 02:52:42,270 --> 02:52:39,550 talk to Eric real quick GG I'll see you 3606 02:52:44,280 --> 02:52:42,280 in two days all right yeah we'll see you 3607 02:52:44,750 --> 02:52:44,290 here man and I will check that out all 3608 02:52:47,870 --> 02:52:44,760 right 3609 02:52:49,460 --> 02:52:47,880 I mean let me talk to Eric hey one quick 3610 02:52:52,160 --> 02:52:49,470 question Jimmy I've never asked you this 3611 02:52:54,019 --> 02:52:52,170 but I know you can play the guitar and 3612 02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:54,029 and I don't really care how good you are 3613 02:52:57,769 --> 02:52:55,920 I just want to ask please just bring and 3614 02:53:00,309 --> 02:52:57,779 even if it's an acoustic guitar 3615 02:53:02,840 --> 02:53:00,319 just bring it with you bro oh god 3616 02:53:04,610 --> 02:53:02,850 whatever it takes I would love to just 3617 02:53:07,550 --> 02:53:04,620 have a little have a little jam so what 3618 02:53:11,210 --> 02:53:07,560 you want yeah Eric I know that you're 3619 02:53:14,510 --> 02:53:11,220 rich but you just no no no you don't 3620 02:53:19,490 --> 02:53:14,520 have that kind of money you just don't 3621 02:53:26,840 --> 02:53:19,500 have it 3622 02:53:28,760 --> 02:53:26,850 I mean look everybody's got to so what 3623 02:53:30,170 --> 02:53:28,770 if we do like some sorrow no deal where 3624 02:53:31,400 --> 02:53:30,180 we do it for fade to black and we can 3625 02:53:31,730 --> 02:53:31,410 raise some money I mean what's it gonna 3626 02:53:34,040 --> 02:53:31,740 take 3627 02:53:37,389 --> 02:53:34,050 I mean can we get down to the bottom 3628 02:53:43,099 --> 02:53:37,399 line here 15 minutes of me shredding 3629 02:53:44,780 --> 02:53:43,109 $10,000 $10,000 and you know what I will 3630 02:53:47,030 --> 02:53:44,790 play it all I'll play you some Yngwie 3631 02:53:52,429 --> 02:53:47,040 I'll play you some Van Halen I play some 3632 02:53:56,450 --> 02:53:52,439 of my and but just think no it's cash in 3633 02:53:58,340 --> 02:53:56,460 advance cash I'll tell you what I would 3634 02:54:11,719 --> 02:53:58,350 commit to a thousand dollars two 3635 02:54:14,300 --> 02:54:11,729 thousand a year for five years now 3636 02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:14,310 something much more important than my 3637 02:54:21,410 --> 02:54:18,000 guitar okay and is this there's a movie 3638 02:54:24,530 --> 02:54:21,420 out it's called annihilation okay it's 3639 02:54:28,070 --> 02:54:24,540 with a Natalie Portman and Jennifer 3640 02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:28,080 Jason Leigh you've got DirecTV they're 3641 02:54:34,429 --> 02:54:30,810 right you've got Netflix you've got it 3642 02:54:39,110 --> 02:54:34,439 on okay it's yeah you can get it on 3643 02:54:44,510 --> 02:54:39,120 DirecTV just annihilation you guys need 3644 02:54:46,309 --> 02:54:44,520 to watch that film tonight oh no no no 3645 02:54:48,290 --> 02:54:46,319 we're we have way too much to drink to 3646 02:54:49,580 --> 02:54:48,300 try to go down that route oh man you 3647 02:54:51,500 --> 02:54:49,590 have no idea 3648 02:54:54,110 --> 02:54:51,510 you have we're gonna we're talking about 3649 02:54:56,881 --> 02:54:54,120 aliens annihilating the planet 3650 02:54:58,741 --> 02:54:56,891 that's what I'm saying that the name of 3651 02:55:00,720 --> 02:54:58,751 the film has nothing to do with what the 3652 02:55:03,291 --> 02:55:00,730 film is about didn't give me a little 3653 02:55:07,220 --> 02:55:03,301 tip just I can't 3654 02:55:10,951 --> 02:55:07,230 then I'll blow it for the entire art 3655 02:55:13,201 --> 02:55:10,961 just let me say this I guarantee you 3656 02:55:15,121 --> 02:55:13,211 you're gonna get to the end of that and 3657 02:55:17,761 --> 02:55:15,131 you are going to come up to me and go to 3658 02:55:18,591 --> 02:55:17,771 church that was the best et film I've 3659 02:55:25,411 --> 02:55:18,601 ever seen 3660 02:55:29,461 --> 02:55:25,421 okay well it's right up there with the 3661 02:55:33,060 --> 02:55:29,471 rival 2001 a Space Odyssey Close 3662 02:55:34,741 --> 02:55:33,070 Encounters of interstellar really just a 3663 02:55:40,650 --> 02:55:34,751 brand-new movie why have not heard about 3664 02:55:44,631 --> 02:55:40,660 this that's why you listen to me sleeper 3665 02:55:48,360 --> 02:55:44,641 asleep I'm telling you I'm telling you 3666 02:55:50,190 --> 02:55:48,370 it is I always said okay who's the star 3667 02:55:54,140 --> 02:55:50,200 she said Jennifer Jason Leigh Anne and 3668 02:55:59,121 --> 02:55:54,150 Mallory Portman that's right it's an all 3669 02:56:04,581 --> 02:55:59,131 I'll feel the male part they're male I 3670 02:56:17,881 --> 02:56:12,720 his name is Oscar Isaac Oscar Isaac but 3671 02:56:21,871 --> 02:56:17,891 it's an all-female cast Wow I'm telling 3672 02:56:24,751 --> 02:56:21,881 you man I'm violation I've got Netflix 3673 02:56:26,551 --> 02:56:24,761 we got a 60-inch Plasma at this place 3674 02:56:28,591 --> 02:56:26,561 what a deal let me just say it's not 3675 02:56:31,470 --> 02:56:28,601 about being rich I'm gonna say it we're 3676 02:56:33,360 --> 02:56:31,480 talking eighty one dollars a day when 3677 02:56:35,161 --> 02:56:33,370 you see this place and you say you paid 3678 02:56:36,480 --> 02:56:35,171 eighty one dollars a day for this you're 3679 02:56:38,850 --> 02:56:36,490 gonna want to shake my hand just for 3680 02:56:39,390 --> 02:56:38,860 that alone Wow I'm not we got a pool 3681 02:56:42,001 --> 02:56:39,400 table 3682 02:56:44,551 --> 02:56:42,011 we got a dartboard got a full-blown bar 3683 02:56:46,381 --> 02:56:44,561 here we've got a beautiful living room 3684 02:56:48,480 --> 02:56:46,391 with like just since that disco lights 3685 02:56:50,400 --> 02:56:48,490 he calls us the number one oh I can't 3686 02:56:52,801 --> 02:56:50,410 down here anyway if you're gonna like it 3687 02:56:54,241 --> 02:56:52,811 it's got air conditioning anybody that 3688 02:56:56,671 --> 02:56:54,251 comes here that's gonna have a good time 3689 02:56:58,501 --> 02:56:56,681 god I just wish more bait or knots that 3690 02:57:00,930 --> 02:56:58,511 are on the fence was just like pull 3691 02:57:04,410 --> 02:57:00,940 without it yeah here I'm here too many 3692 02:57:07,710 --> 02:57:04,420 whiners out there yeah I know 3693 02:57:09,899 --> 02:57:07,720 I know III have the feeling this is 3694 02:57:12,149 --> 02:57:09,909 going to be the biggest and best contact 3695 02:57:13,710 --> 02:57:12,159 in the desert yeah yeah I'm gonna bet on 3696 02:57:15,870 --> 02:57:13,720 it right now and I caught up just so you 3697 02:57:17,460 --> 02:57:15,880 know I called Micah Hank's talked to him 3698 02:57:18,990 --> 02:57:17,470 for about 20 minutes I tried to get him 3699 02:57:21,240 --> 02:57:19,000 to come out but he's got a wedding this 3700 02:57:22,679 --> 02:57:21,250 weekend but he's gonna go to Seoul Tech 3701 02:57:23,820 --> 02:57:22,689 and I said I don't care if you're 3702 02:57:25,920 --> 02:57:23,830 speaking or not Micah 3703 02:57:28,559 --> 02:57:25,930 we need you out there so you can tell 3704 02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:28,569 Michael I'm picking this one of a sudden 3705 02:57:31,889 --> 02:57:29,680 like the haints gonna come out to hang 3706 02:57:34,590 --> 02:57:31,899 out with his voltec oh really that'll be 3707 02:57:38,160 --> 02:57:34,600 fun he's perfect for Seoul tech he's 3708 02:57:41,250 --> 02:57:38,170 perfect yes smartest wittiest most 3709 02:57:43,019 --> 02:57:41,260 humorous guys on the radio I mean yeah 3710 02:57:44,160 --> 02:57:43,029 I'm grateful you introduced me to him 3711 02:57:46,800 --> 02:57:44,170 out there at the Big Bear of that but 3712 02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:46,810 the healing snow fest that guy's sleeper 3713 02:57:52,979 --> 02:57:49,840 man alien snow fast how many years ago 3714 02:57:55,410 --> 02:57:52,989 was that Jesus it seemed like 10 years 3715 02:57:58,380 --> 02:57:55,420 ago but that was felt a lot of fun Mary 3716 02:58:00,269 --> 02:57:58,390 Jesus God well it was a halls anybody 3717 02:58:02,219 --> 02:58:00,279 has to do is have one alien snow fence 3718 02:58:05,070 --> 02:58:02,229 experience and they're done after that 3719 02:58:08,280 --> 02:58:05,080 right if they're not done after that 3720 02:58:10,710 --> 02:58:08,290 there's no hope for you know the reason 3721 02:58:13,050 --> 02:58:10,720 why that that we had so much fun is 3722 02:58:17,099 --> 02:58:13,060 because we were all together you know 3723 02:58:19,320 --> 02:58:17,109 and and that was it but anyway listen I 3724 02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:19,330 gotta fly gotta roll credits okay so 3725 02:58:23,820 --> 02:58:21,130 I'll see you guys I'll see you guys in a 3726 02:58:25,860 --> 02:58:23,830 couple of days Thursday we roll into 3727 02:58:28,830 --> 02:58:25,870 town today's Monday does not forget 3728 02:58:30,420 --> 02:58:28,840 three days yeah but we got everything 3729 02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:30,430 taken care of so you guys don't have to 3730 02:58:38,219 --> 02:58:33,010 worry about nothing literally everything 3731 02:58:38,729 --> 02:58:38,229 okay I'll talk to you okay thank you so 3732 02:58:41,580 --> 02:58:38,739 much 3733 02:58:47,550 --> 02:58:41,590 all right that's Eric awakening man he's 3734 02:58:50,099 --> 02:58:47,560 at the fader house out there at in Palm 3735 02:58:52,110 --> 02:58:50,109 Springs Indian Wells contact in the 3736 02:58:54,840 --> 02:58:52,120 desert we're going to be there we're 3737 02:58:57,420 --> 02:58:54,850 gonna roll in on Thursday and things 3738 02:59:00,360 --> 02:58:57,430 kick off on Friday and I agree with Eric 3739 02:59:03,870 --> 02:59:00,370 if you're on the fence just just get out 3740 02:59:05,550 --> 02:59:03,880 there that's all you got to do it's when 3741 02:59:08,040 --> 02:59:05,560 we say that it's the biggest and best 3742 02:59:10,769 --> 02:59:08,050 and coolest and funnest and and all that 3743 02:59:14,610 --> 02:59:10,779 that's because it is it is an insanely 3744 02:59:17,439 --> 02:59:14,620 great event to go and hang out all right 3745 02:59:18,880 --> 02:59:17,449 I want to thank Steve Murillo of 3746 02:59:21,489 --> 02:59:18,890 coming in tonight always a great 3747 02:59:25,929 --> 02:59:21,499 conversation with Steve tomorrow night 3748 02:59:27,399 --> 02:59:25,939 Darryl Sims is gonna be here and always 3749 02:59:29,019 --> 02:59:27,409 great when Darryl joins the show we've 3750 02:59:30,249 --> 02:59:29,029 got a couple of things specifically that 3751 02:59:33,609 --> 02:59:30,259 we're going to be talking about tomorrow 3752 02:59:36,010 --> 02:59:33,619 night and then Wednesday will be fate or 3753 02:59:39,099 --> 02:59:36,020 night we're moving it up one day because 3754 02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:39,109 Thursday night we will be off air we're 3755 02:59:44,889 --> 02:59:41,600 going to be on the road Friday night we 3756 02:59:46,899 --> 02:59:44,899 will be broadcasting live from contact 3757 02:59:49,179 --> 02:59:46,909 in the desert live studio audience 3758 02:59:52,119 --> 02:59:49,189 and just like we do every year we'll 3759 02:59:54,670 --> 02:59:52,129 probably run 14 16 guests through the 3760 02:59:56,529 --> 02:59:54,680 show in three hours and that'll be 3761 03:00:00,550 --> 02:59:56,539 Friday night and we'll see everybody out 3762 03:00:03,090 --> 03:00:00,560 at contact in the desert and with that 3763 03:00:08,619 --> 03:00:03,100 believe it or not that wraps another 3764 03:00:11,679 --> 03:00:08,629 night of fade to black unbelievable week 3765 03:00:16,959 --> 03:00:11,689 weekend month that Rita and I have had 3766 03:00:19,689 --> 03:00:16,969 around here sleep and rest it's so 3767 03:00:21,519 --> 03:00:19,699 overrated paid to Black's executive 3768 03:00:23,459 --> 03:00:21,529 producers Rita Kumari on shows produced 3769 03:00:25,479 --> 03:00:23,469 by MJ palm Renee Dennis and Bob 3770 03:00:28,119 --> 03:00:25,489 announces Oh Steve harder Jean Patou 3771 03:00:32,170 --> 03:00:28,129 Marty Cove our webmaster drew the geek 3772 03:00:35,739 --> 03:00:32,180 music doug aldrich intro space boys 3773 03:00:38,109 --> 03:00:35,749 space boy music calm beta-blockers 3774 03:00:42,219 --> 03:00:38,119 produced by kjsurya network and 3775 03:00:44,319 --> 03:00:42,229 syndications kgr a the planet broadcasts 3776 03:00:46,449 --> 03:00:44,329 on a copyright of 2018 by fade to black 3777 03:00:48,579 --> 03:00:46,459 in the game changer network it cannot be 3778 03:00:50,229 --> 03:00:48,589 rebroadcast download a copy to use 3779 03:00:52,300 --> 03:00:50,239 anywhere in the known universe 3780 03:00:54,849 --> 03:00:52,310 without written permission from fade to 3781 03:00:57,880 --> 03:00:54,859 black of the game-changer Network armies 3782 03:01:01,659 --> 03:00:57,890 Jimmy Church follow me on Twitter at Jay 3783 03:01:04,930 --> 03:01:01,669 Church radio until tomorrow night with 3784 03:01:10,260 --> 03:01:04,940 Derrel Sims I want everybody to be saved